If the rule is being applied to one group it has to be applied all groups. Seating should apply to all.
IJN":27fw7ak3 said:Just as daft is those that moan, complain and refuse to move even when they know they're in a 'standing allowed' area.
IJN":2txk4s7m said:Just as daft is those that moan, complain and refuse to move even when they know they're in a 'standing allowed' area.
Shankster":2x3gnlxg said:It’s interesting, the debate is wide ranging and holistic across all professional clubs with a decent following.
I’ve talked to others who follow other clubs but I’ve not heard of any other fanbase who are so vitriolic on both sides of the blurred line
Crystal Palace is a decent example, look down at their ‘ultras’ sector and they stand to a child.
Other clubs have a very interesting eclectic variance, when I go up for LFC v Everton or Utd I’m standing in the Kop, same goes for European nights and yet other games sea the Kop seated. I’ve never been, nor have I heard, people being asked to to sit on such occasions. A certain amount of sensible acumen applied.
The Main Stand at Anfield never stands
:clap: Well said.keyser soze":2i6zb868 said:I relocated from the Mayflower into Block 14. I was fully aware there were supporters who like to stand at the back of that block so opted for a seat nearer the front. Plain common sense really, besides why should I expect long term occcupants of Block 14 to change their habits just cause I move in for one season.
The thing that's really baffling me with all this is those whinging about the standing who actually chose to relocated to the back of Block 15, did you never study the crowd behaviour at all when you were over the Grandstand side? My advice would be to relocated again to Block 18, sat there myself last Saturday, great view. Move on and we can all get on with moaning about the football instead.
I would add that I think the club could have gone along way to avoiding this situation by advising people when they chose their seats that the view from the back of Block 15 isn't what it could be. Just my opinion.
jimsing":3enadn6l said:Shankster":3enadn6l said:It’s interesting, the debate is wide ranging and holistic across all professional clubs with a decent following.
I’ve talked to others who follow other clubs but I’ve not heard of any other fanbase who are so vitriolic on both sides of the blurred line
Crystal Palace is a decent example, look down at their ‘ultras’ sector and they stand to a child.
Other clubs have a very interesting eclectic variance, when I go up for LFC v Everton or Utd I’m standing in the Kop, same goes for European nights and yet other games sea the Kop seated. I’ve never been, nor have I heard, people being asked to to sit on such occasions. A certain amount of sensible acumen applied.
The Main Stand at Anfield never stands
Their grandstands have not been closed and the older people who prefer to sit have not been moved to another area of the stadium, where the younger generation prefer to stand.
The conflict will diminish when they return to their refurbished grandstand.
Patience is a virtue, Shanks.
IJN":2hwqenr5 said:Just as daft is those that moan, complain and refuse to move even when they know they're in a 'standing allowed' area.
jimsing":1r6th4h1 said:IJN":1r6th4h1 said:Just as daft is those that moan, complain and refuse to move even when they know they're in a 'standing allowed' area.
No standing allowed in an all seater stadium, Ian, but I know what you mean.
From a practical point of view it is difficult to deal with any large group of people who insist on standing when they should be seated. Thus the enforcement of the regulations becomes impractical.
Those that argue that they are allowed to stand are not "allowed" to stand, but the impacticalities of dealing with such a large number of people mean that no action is taken, but they are putting themselves at risk of ejection, and even banning, as the safety aspect of the regulations will always take priority.
If it is a risk that they think worth taking then there will always be those that will stand, sometimes to the detriment of others and always to the football club itself.
Bristol Rich":201rem3k said:jimsing":201rem3k said:IJN":201rem3k said:Just as daft is those that moan, complain and refuse to move even when they know they're in a 'standing allowed' area.
No standing allowed in an all seater stadium, Ian, but I know what you mean.
From a practical point of view it is difficult to deal with any large group of people who insist on standing when they should be seated. Thus the enforcement of the regulations becomes impractical.
Those that argue that they are allowed to stand are not "allowed" to stand, but the impacticalities of dealing with such a large number of people mean that no action is taken, but they are putting themselves at risk of ejection, and even banning, as the safety aspect of the regulations will always take priority.
If it is a risk that they think worth taking then there will always be those that will stand, sometimes to the detriment of others and always to the football club itself.
It is not a detriment to the club in anyway to have a small minority standing in a stadium that is over a 3rd empty. If big clubs can handle it on packed grounds I'm sure a half empty Home Park can.
There is no need for any Grandstanders to be in the last 3 rows of Block 14 is there?
jimsing":2oha168v said:Bristol Rich":2oha168v said:jimsing":2oha168v said:IJN":2oha168v said:Just as daft is those that moan, complain and refuse to move even when they know they're in a 'standing allowed' area.
No standing allowed in an all seater stadium, Ian, but I know what you mean.
From a practical point of view it is difficult to deal with any large group of people who insist on standing when they should be seated. Thus the enforcement of the regulations becomes impractical.
Those that argue that they are allowed to stand are not "allowed" to stand, but the impacticalities of dealing with such a large number of people mean that no action is taken, but they are putting themselves at risk of ejection, and even banning, as the safety aspect of the regulations will always take priority.
If it is a risk that they think worth taking then there will always be those that will stand, sometimes to the detriment of others and always to the football club itself.
It is not a detriment to the club in anyway to have a small minority standing in a stadium that is over a 3rd empty. If big clubs can handle it on packed grounds I'm sure a half empty Home Park can.
There is no need for any Grandstanders to be in the last 3 rows of Block 14 is there?
It is a detriment to the Club, as seen by the Authorities, who apparently do visit grounds to ensure compliance.
If the grandstanders are forced to sit in an area that they do not wish to be in, then will the standers be forced to stand in an area that they may not wish to be in, when/if the safe standing becomes a possibility?
I'm sure they will put up the argument that they have stood for such a long time that they would be exempt from moving to the corners where the safe standing is supposed to be placed by the Club when possible.