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Did DA know what he was doing? (I told you so)
- Thread starter philevs
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Whatever your views on Derek Adams the bottom line is that we are in the same Division as we were 4 years ago when he took over so in terms of football progress we are no further forward.Financially who knows whether we are in a better position or not
IJN":2dm782sv said:
Well actually Ian it's just important to point out the whole truth not half the truth.
Kentishgreen":1ly5vqnt said:
It's not what anyone thinks, the history books will show a defeat and a relegation. Not sure how this is hard to understand? You are the one telling half truths.
HC Green":31unmfi4 said:
Any sensible Chairmen and not an Adams lackey will be more interested in the relegation.
r4h4al":1q0g3zw4 said:
Yes he did what happened after he left was irrelevant we won our game and went down
Three results got us relegated I isolation the two games where we lost leads late on and the hopeless gutless display at Accrington
If we had took a pint from either or a one nil defeat we would have been safe
All this was down to the defence Adams built
So it had nothing to do with the 11 so called professionals who pulled on a green shirt and either bottled it or downed tools in the last few games. We conceded 11 goals in our last three games including that ādisplayā at Accrington. Thatās ultimately why we were relegated irrespective of what you think of the manager. I hope that with one or two exceptions none of them accept new contracts and that those still under contract get nowhere near our first team.
Whoās right. Whoās wrong. Itās the past now.
The simply fact is Argyle got relegated. Adams was in charge for 45 of the 46 league games. He failed.
The bloke isnāt as good as some thought. If you think about it in all seriousness we went down on goal difference. Perhaps if Adams taught the team how to defend and score away from home we MIGHT of stayed up.
All this is irrelevant as after four years Adams took us back to league two, where he started from. His win ratio did nothing to stop us getting relegated, did it?
This isnāt my facts. Or every bodies elseās fact. This is what happened.
The simply fact is Argyle got relegated. Adams was in charge for 45 of the 46 league games. He failed.
The bloke isnāt as good as some thought. If you think about it in all seriousness we went down on goal difference. Perhaps if Adams taught the team how to defend and score away from home we MIGHT of stayed up.
All this is irrelevant as after four years Adams took us back to league two, where he started from. His win ratio did nothing to stop us getting relegated, did it?
This isnāt my facts. Or every bodies elseās fact. This is what happened.
Perhaps your judgement of Adams is coloured by your personal relationship with him and you donāt see things objectively.IJN":pkmwlfxz said:
Regardless of his what he puts on his CV, the fact is that after 4 years in charge, the club is in exactly the same place as they were when he came in. If your are looking for someone to take your club forwards, that is not much of an endorsement.
And letās be honest, getting a club liked Argyle promoted from the basement of the Football League after 2 seasons is no big deal. I doubt thatās going to impress a Chairman at a decent League 1 club and certainly not at all at a Championship club.
In addition, as was the case when he left Ross County, he left a changing room with players that he had signed who were clearly not prepared to play for him and a deeply-divided fan base. Although come the end, there was only the stubborn hardcore few who remained in defiance of the dire situation the club was in, which Adams himself was largely responsible for.
So now itās no big deal to get promoted out of L2. Try looking at GOS and see how long weāve spent in the basement before getting promoted. And of course letās not forget we go to Wembley every other season donāt we!
Well itās over now and I expect the blame rests partly with the manager, partly with a set of ineffectual players who ultimately didnāt give a poo and partly with the Board who took their eyes off the ball. I expect the cat had something to do with it too.
W can only hope for better
Well itās over now and I expect the blame rests partly with the manager, partly with a set of ineffectual players who ultimately didnāt give a poo and partly with the Board who took their eyes off the ball. I expect the cat had something to do with it too.
W can only hope for better
A team that havenāt paid their staff for 2 months, are facing a winding up order and who had a Rookie Manager have just been Runners-Up in L2. In recent seasons we have seen the might of Rochdale, Accrington, Wycombe and Wimbledon promoted from L2; so no, itās not a big deal especially for a club like Argyle who have more potential than any of those I have listed and many more teams which I didnāt include.Kentishgreen":1c1m0kqo said:
You say the blame only partly lies with Adams, I say that it almost exclusively lies with Adams.
He didnāt have to get us promoted or to even make the Play-offs. He didnāt even have to make us solid mid-table. All he had to do was to keep us out of the bottom 4 and he failed miserably.
He had to learn from the previous season and not make an horrendous start but instead, he was even worse and we were bottom of the League after 25 games. One defeat less in those 25 games might have made the difference.
He signed every player who played last season, he coached them weekly and prepared them for each game. He was responsible for all footballing matters at the club but as events have shown, he wasnāt good enough to even compete with the likes of the 4 small clubs I mentioned.
He ended up with a group of players who didnāt want to play for him and a fan base almost united against him.
That will look good on his CV.
