Camara made available for transfer

[Lancastergreen]

The sooner he leaves the better, why keep a player who thinks he's now bigger than an Argyle player?
We wouldnt put up with it in the past so why any different now?
He's an OK just above average league one, international (non league level) player, let him move on and get ourselves someone who wants to play for us.

 

[Mr Gillingham]

The sooner he leaves the better, why keep a player who thinks he's now bigger than an Argyle player?
We wouldnt put up with it in the past so why any different now?
He's an OK just above average league one, international (non league level) player, let him move on and get ourselves someone who wants to play for us.

He's far better than that, and will improve further playing with better quality footballers.

 

[mervyn]

The sooner he leaves the better, why keep a player who thinks he's now bigger than an Argyle player?
We wouldnt put up with it in the past so why any different now?
He's an OK just above average league one, international (non league level) player, let him move on and get ourselves someone who wants to play for us.

I have real difficulty understanding our attitude to ambitious players. If you or I announced to work colleagues that we were planning to move on to a bigger job with a bigger salary, we would probably be admired by colleagues and wished good luck. I did this twice during my career, and allowed myself to be talked into staying with a better deal. Instead we immediately denounce the player, question his real value to the club, and worst of all his future commitment, just because he dares to be ambitious.

 

[saxman]

The sooner he leaves the better, why keep a player who thinks he's now bigger than an Argyle player?
We wouldnt put up with it in the past so why any different now?
He's an OK just above average league one, international (non league level) player, let him move on and get ourselves someone who wants to play for us.

I don't think he comes across like that. Football is a business and negotiations are two sided. Both want the b est deal. Argyle have chosen a way of dealing with a seeming impasse as they see fit and I have to agree with them. The option is still there for Pan to remain and/or sign an extension, he is still under contract.

 

[Big Poppa Pump]

He is better than an average league one player as has been mentioned.
But it's funny now how many posters are saying we could get or may have to accept a low price for him. I said this ages ago, and a certain member let me have it.

 

[Argylegames]

I have real difficulty understanding our attitude to ambitious players. If you or I announced to work colleagues that we were planning to move on to a bigger job with a bigger salary, we would probably be admired by colleagues and wished good luck. I did this twice during my career, and allowed myself to be talked into staying with a better deal. Instead we immediately denounce the player, question his real value to the club, and worst of all his future commitment, just because he dares to be ambitious.

In the firms I worked for you would have been out the door on gardening leave within an hour of announcing you were going. All access to company systems instantly cut off, no time to say goodbye to anyone not amongst your immediate colleagues.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

In the firms I worked for you would have been out the door on gardening leave within an hour of announcing you were going. All access to company systems instantly cut off, no time to say goodbye to anyone not amongst your immediate colleagues.

Football is different though. If a footballer signs a three year contract then they are immediately giving notice of when they intend to leave.

 

[EastoftheTamar]

I have no issue with ambitious players , I have an issue with badge thumping, oh I love it here blah blah blah then run off for an extra few quid

they are employed to do a job, they all jump ship when the offer of an extra pound or closer to home, none actually care about the club, the fans etc , we are all just a means to an income

unless you are a one club player who turns down big moves , then in essence you are just playing for your wages

do I blame them no! If someone came to me and said I’ll give you 50% more for the same job maybe closer to home I would jump at it, however I would not disrespect the fans by displaying my pretend loyalty

 

[Hargyle]

The sooner he leaves the better, why keep a player who thinks he's now bigger than an Argyle player?
We wouldnt put up with it in the past so why any different now?
He's an OK just above average league one, international (non league level) player, let him move on and get ourselves someone who wants to play for us.

I really disagree with this.

PC is good at our level, better than average, but probably not a must-have for many teams above L1, he's now into his last year of his contract, so we're not going to get the big fee some think we'll get; a few hundred thousand maybe.

Having an ambition to play at a higher level, or for a bigger club, shouldn't be seen as being disloyal, or showing a lack of interest, because he probably had that ambition before he even signed for us two-years ago; and he's done pretty well up til now.

My preference would be to put a price on him which is slightly above what we should expect, something like 1.5 million, hope no one buys him, and play him until January. Then, if we're doing well enough, try to extend his contract with the carrot of Argyle getting promoted, or if that doesn't look likely, let him move on for whatever we can get or allow him to run down his contract.

Either way, he leaves with a handshake and pat on the back; nothing less.

 

[Balham Green]

In the firms I worked for you would have been out the door on gardening leave within an hour of announcing you were going. All access to company systems instantly cut off, no time to say goodbye to anyone not amongst your immediate colleagues.

Sounds like strange firms. They don't believe in notice periods which is a statutory requirement?

 

[GreenThing]

Sounds like a strange firm. They don't believe in notice periods which is a statutory requirement?

The notice period is what he refers to as gardening leave. As long as you’re paid for your notice period, doesn’t mean you have to work. It makes sense to ensure you can’t take any sensitive information with you if you’re going to work for a competitor.

 

[PL2 3DQ]

Club loyalty from players is rare in football, in recent years at Argyle I can only think of Sawyer, Wotton and McCormick (even then they all left for different reasons and came back).
Players will tweet positive messages aimed at fans, thump the chest or badge all to get onside with the fans, which is fair enough, it's great while they're here and we all enjoy the ride.
But football can be brutal, last season Camara was the darling of the club Twitter account and now he's cast aside and not mentioned in the promotional video for next season. And George Cooper before him.
Fair enough, we all know game.

We still have the saga of 'will he, won't he' turn up for pre-season training to look forward to, unless Camara is sold within the next few weeks.

 

[Argyleloyal]

Club loyalty from players is rare in football, in recent years at Argyle I can only think of Sawyer, Wotton and McCormick (even then they all left for different reasons and came back).
Players will tweet positive messages aimed at fans, thump the chest or badge all to get onside with the fans, which is fair enough, it's great while they're here and we all enjoy the ride.
But football can be brutal, last season Camara was the darling of the club Twitter account and now he's cast aside and not mentioned in the promotional video for next season. And George Cooper before him.
Fair enough, we all know game.

We still have the saga of 'will he, won't he' turn up for pre-season training to look forward to, unless Camara is sold within the next few weeks.

In most cases they get told by their agent/PA team what to write

 

[Balham Green]

Club loyalty from players is rare in football, in recent years at Argyle I can only think of Sawyer, Wotton and McCormick (even then they all left for different reasons and came back).
Players will tweet positive messages aimed at fans, thump the chest or badge all to get onside with the fans, which is fair enough, it's great while they're here and we all enjoy the ride.
But football can be brutal, last season Camara was the darling of the club Twitter account and now he's cast aside and not mentioned in the promotional video for next season. And George Cooper before him.
Fair enough, we all know game.

We still have the saga of 'will he, won't he' turn up for pre-season training to look forward to, unless Camara is sold within the next few weeks.

That's what we don't want. The sooner a decision is made the better so we can plan ahead.

 

[rsp4]

I've heard today that negotiations are back on the table probably because only lg1 clubs are interested.

Has anybody else heard this?