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Bradley update 12.06.18: Signs for Luton

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He was an excellent signing and an important player for us.

Of course players come and go. Hopefully DA can get in an even better replacement.

However the club doesn’t have the finances to keep allowing players with potential resale value to keep leaving for nothing. DA would have a much better chance of getting in a better centre half with £250k in his back pocket

Adams had the opportunity to sell Bradley to Luton in January but decided against it.

Give Adams a bit of slack. He knows what he is doing.

Correct. I think Luton offered something in the region of £200,000. Now, if he signs for them they'll get him for nothing which means he'll be able to negotiate a much improved personal deal than would have been the case a few short months ago.

Sounds to me like Sonny's got his head screwed on pretty well whilst screwing Plymouth Argyle into the bargain. Maybe DA would have been better advised to grab the money when it was offered whereas now, whereever Bradley goes, Argyle get bugger all for him.
 
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I have to be honest. I am pretty meh about this. Bradley has done well for us, has given us great service, but if I were asked if I had a choice between keeping Eddy or Sonny I would choose Eddy every time. I trust in DA that he will bring in someone equally as good as Sonny if not better, we know how canny DA is when it comes to bringing in players and improving them so I have every faith that we will end up no worse off for losing Sonny. Decent defender, but for me his lack of pace, his turn and his positional marking at times always left a question mark over his head for me. All the best Sonny, thank you for the service, enjoy Looton.
 
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Steve.PAFC2012":237xp3z9 said:
This is why I sort of hate badge kissers.

Agree on this Steve, on the whole it's not something that I see as actually meaning much. One of the few players who does it and I know that they truly mean it is Messi. When he kisses the Barca badge you know that he genuinely loves the club, without them he probably wouldn't be the success that he is today, given that very few clubs wanted to give him a chance due to his restriction in height. For me, only One club men, or local born players playing for their local team kiss their badge and truly mean it, everyone else will come and go, but those are the players you know are truly loyal to the team, the club, the manager and the fanbase
 
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Justin":2fxfw4cy said:
Etiquette? What are you on about Jimsing? We offer him a new contract to help his next club look good? You seriously think that’s Adams’ concern?

No, no, no, we offer him a contract for what his worth is to us. His worth may be higher to another Club, but Adams is aware that at least one other Club will be interested in signing him, and that his contract offer will probably be beaten, but he makes it anyway.

Adams has given Bradley an offer of a contract. Okay. Luton made a financial offer last season when Bradley was in contract, which Adams turned down. Okay. Adams has given Bradley an offer for the coming season knowing that Luton would be back, indeed if the press are to be believed, more than one club is interested in Bradley, so the likelyhood of keeping him was slim.

If Adams knew he was likely to lose him, why did he offer him a contract at all? Why did he just not release him?

No skin off his nose. He gets no financial reward either way.

Offering of contracts is a tricky thing. Sawyer bit his hand off last season and was one of the first to re-sign. However, this year we are still waiting for his decision. Ask yourself, has Sawyer now found that his worth to the Club has dropped and he is looking for a higher offer elsewhere? or is he just waiting until he gets back from holiday?

These days ALL players have agents, and these contract negotiations are done through them. The player is always on the end of a phone, and so can afford to take their time in case a Club suddenly looks his way.

That is why Adams has time limits on his contract offers, so that he knows where he stands, as does the player, and his agent.
 

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I would have thought but Bradley and Fox would have announced there departs by now.
 
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jimsing":efo7rsg5 said:
Justin":efo7rsg5 said:
Etiquette? What are you on about Jimsing? We offer him a new contract to help his next club look good? You seriously think that’s Adams’ concern?

No, no, no, we offer him a contract for what his worth is to us. His worth may be higher to another Club, but Adams is aware that at least one other Club will be interested in signing him, and that his contract offer will probably be beaten, but he makes it anyway.

Adams has given Bradley an offer of a contract. Okay. Luton made a financial offer last season when Bradley was in contract, which Adams turned down. Okay. Adams has given Bradley an offer for the coming season knowing that Luton would be back, indeed if the press are to be believed, more than one club is interested in Bradley, so the likelyhood of keeping him was slim.

If Adams knew he was likely to lose him, why did he offer him a contract at all? Why did he just not release him?

No skin off his nose. He gets no financial reward either way.

Offering of contracts is a tricky thing. Sawyer bit his hand off last season and was one of the first to re-sign. However, this year we are still waiting for his decision. Ask yourself, has Sawyer now found that his worth to the Club has dropped and he is looking for a higher offer elsewhere? or is he just waiting until he gets back from holiday?

These days ALL players have agents, and these contract negotiations are done through them. The player is always on the end of a phone, and so can afford to take their time in case a Club suddenly looks his way.

That is why Adams has time limits on his contract offers, so that he knows where he stands, as does the player, and his agent.

You are over thinking it mate
Suggest you calm and have an early night
If Adams didn't want him why didn't he let him go for a fee before. Like I say you make no sense.
 
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Balham_Green":17o9ucha said:
jimsing":17o9ucha said:
Justin":17o9ucha said:
Etiquette? What are you on about Jimsing? We offer him a new contract to help his next club look good? You seriously think that’s Adams’ concern?

No, no, no, we offer him a contract for what his worth is to us. His worth may be higher to another Club, but Adams is aware that at least one other Club will be interested in signing him, and that his contract offer will probably be beaten, but he makes it anyway.

Adams has given Bradley an offer of a contract. Okay. Luton made a financial offer last season when Bradley was in contract, which Adams turned down. Okay. Adams has given Bradley an offer for the coming season knowing that Luton would be back, indeed if the press are to be believed, more than one club is interested in Bradley, so the likelyhood of keeping him was slim.

If Adams knew he was likely to lose him, why did he offer him a contract at all? Why did he just not release him?

No skin off his nose. He gets no financial reward either way.

Offering of contracts is a tricky thing. Sawyer bit his hand off last season and was one of the first to re-sign. However, this year we are still waiting for his decision. Ask yourself, has Sawyer now found that his worth to the Club has dropped and he is looking for a higher offer elsewhere? or is he just waiting until he gets back from holiday?

These days ALL players have agents, and these contract negotiations are done through them. The player is always on the end of a phone, and so can afford to take their time in case a Club suddenly looks his way.

That is why Adams has time limits on his contract offers, so that he knows where he stands, as does the player, and his agent.

You are over thinking it mate
Suggest you calm and have an early night
If Adams didn't want him why didn't he let him go for a fee before. Like I say you make no sense.

What would he have generated in a transfer fee.As much as Jake Jervis, or double at [say] £200k?
 

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Balham_Green":400bf3b9 said:
jimsing":400bf3b9 said:
Justin":400bf3b9 said:
Etiquette? What are you on about Jimsing? We offer him a new contract to help his next club look good? You seriously think that’s Adams’ concern?

No, no, no, we offer him a contract for what his worth is to us. His worth may be higher to another Club, but Adams is aware that at least one other Club will be interested in signing him, and that his contract offer will probably be beaten, but he makes it anyway.

Adams has given Bradley an offer of a contract. Okay. Luton made a financial offer last season when Bradley was in contract, which Adams turned down. Okay. Adams has given Bradley an offer for the coming season knowing that Luton would be back, indeed if the press are to be believed, more than one club is interested in Bradley, so the likelyhood of keeping him was slim.

If Adams knew he was likely to lose him, why did he offer him a contract at all? Why did he just not release him?

No skin off his nose. He gets no financial reward either way.

Offering of contracts is a tricky thing. Sawyer bit his hand off last season and was one of the first to re-sign. However, this year we are still waiting for his decision. Ask yourself, has Sawyer now found that his worth to the Club has dropped and he is looking for a higher offer elsewhere? or is he just waiting until he gets back from holiday?

These days ALL players have agents, and these contract negotiations are done through them. The player is always on the end of a phone, and so can afford to take their time in case a Club suddenly looks his way.

That is why Adams has time limits on his contract offers, so that he knows where he stands, as does the player, and his agent.

You are over thinking it mate
Suggest you calm and have an early night
If Adams didn't want him why didn't he let him go for a fee before. Like I say you make no sense.
Balham Green....no need for those snide remarks......
 
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oddball":1lww092e said:
Balham_Green":1lww092e said:
jimsing":1lww092e said:
Justin":1lww092e said:
Etiquette? What are you on about Jimsing? We offer him a new contract to help his next club look good? You seriously think that’s Adams’ concern?

No, no, no, we offer him a contract for what his worth is to us. His worth may be higher to another Club, but Adams is aware that at least one other Club will be interested in signing him, and that his contract offer will probably be beaten, but he makes it anyway.

Adams has given Bradley an offer of a contract. Okay. Luton made a financial offer last season when Bradley was in contract, which Adams turned down. Okay. Adams has given Bradley an offer for the coming season knowing that Luton would be back, indeed if the press are to be believed, more than one club is interested in Bradley, so the likelyhood of keeping him was slim.

If Adams knew he was likely to lose him, why did he offer him a contract at all? Why did he just not release him?

No skin off his nose. He gets no financial reward either way.

Offering of contracts is a tricky thing. Sawyer bit his hand off last season and was one of the first to re-sign. However, this year we are still waiting for his decision. Ask yourself, has Sawyer now found that his worth to the Club has dropped and he is looking for a higher offer elsewhere? or is he just waiting until he gets back from holiday?

These days ALL players have agents, and these contract negotiations are done through them. The player is always on the end of a phone, and so can afford to take their time in case a Club suddenly looks his way.

That is why Adams has time limits on his contract offers, so that he knows where he stands, as does the player, and his agent.

You are over thinking it mate
Suggest you calm and have an early night
If Adams didn't want him why didn't he let him go for a fee before. Like I say you make no sense.
Balham Green....no need for those snide remarks......

But that's what he specialises in.
 
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Balham_Green":331pdc9o said:
jimsing":331pdc9o said:
Justin":331pdc9o said:
Etiquette? What are you on about Jimsing? We offer him a new contract to help his next club look good? You seriously think that’s Adams’ concern?

No, no, no, we offer him a contract for what his worth is to us. His worth may be higher to another Club, but Adams is aware that at least one other Club will be interested in signing him, and that his contract offer will probably be beaten, but he makes it anyway.

Adams has given Bradley an offer of a contract. Okay. Luton made a financial offer last season when Bradley was in contract, which Adams turned down. Okay. Adams has given Bradley an offer for the coming season knowing that Luton would be back, indeed if the press are to be believed, more than one club is interested in Bradley, so the likelyhood of keeping him was slim.

If Adams knew he was likely to lose him, why did he offer him a contract at all? Why did he just not release him?

No skin off his nose. He gets no financial reward either way.

Offering of contracts is a tricky thing. Sawyer bit his hand off last season and was one of the first to re-sign. However, this year we are still waiting for his decision. Ask yourself, has Sawyer now found that his worth to the Club has dropped and he is looking for a higher offer elsewhere? or is he just waiting until he gets back from holiday?

These days ALL players have agents, and these contract negotiations are done through them. The player is always on the end of a phone, and so can afford to take their time in case a Club suddenly looks his way.

That is why Adams has time limits on his contract offers, so that he knows where he stands, as does the player, and his agent.

You are over thinking it mate
Suggest you calm and have an early night
If Adams didn't want him why didn't he let him go for a fee before. Like I say you make no sense.

Thanks for your advise, Mate.

Adams clearly felt it was vital to retain him for the second half of the season. Remember, we were bottom of the league, and you don't get rid of your best players when you're near to that end of the league.

We survived and even finished in 7th place, as you know, and we are now in a different place than we were then. We are now looking to get players that will get us up to the next division, not those that would help to consolidate in this one.

That's why he didn't sell him then, but is prepared to let him go now.

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Let’s suppose someone offered you a six figure sum to go and work for them would you? I know I would. Would you expect Plymouth Argyle to offer someone a six figure sum to work for them? No I didn’t think so.
 
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I feel that Bradley has found his level, and is an excellent defender at this level, but he will get completely found out in the Championship, which is our target.

I remember being in a similar situation with Cucko, he was an excellent defender in this division, but was far too slow in the Championship and got found out far too often. I was so disappointed, he had been with us from the start of Luggy's rein in Div 4, had done so well in our surge up the leagues, but became just a liability in the Championship.
 
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Spix":334ypzbn said:
jimsing":334ypzbn said:
TJH":334ypzbn said:
He was an excellent signing and an important player for us.

Of course players come and go. Hopefully DA can get in an even better replacement.

However the club doesn’t have the finances to keep allowing players with potential resale value to keep leaving for nothing. DA would have a much better chance of getting in a better centre half with £250k in his back pocket

Adams had the opportunity to sell Bradley to Luton in January but decided against it.

Give Adams a bit of slack. He knows what he is doing.

Correct. I think Luton offered something in the region of £200,000. Now, if he signs for them they'll get him for nothing which means he'll be able to negotiate a much improved personal deal than would have been the case a few short months ago.

Sounds to me like Sonny's got his head screwed on pretty well whilst screwing Plymouth Argyle into the bargain. Maybe DA would have been better advised to grab the money when it was offered whereas now, whereever Bradley goes, Argyle get bugger all for him.

Maybe one of the prime factors in DA's thinking at the time was that Argyle were in with a serious chance of promotion and had no wish to lose a lynchpin centre back who was also an obvious talisman and on field leader.