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Adams in demand?

Green_Flash":kzmvfbay said:
No it wouldn’t. A poll in which 100s of Argyle fans voted is a far better indication - it had not reached the protest stage but most people quietly thought it was time for him to go.Why would a pasoti poll of 600 not be representative? It certainly reflected the views of people I talked to



Like any other public interest group, PASOTI members are largely up their own "arris" and feel they all have their finger on the pulse. Me included. How arogant we are to think we know Derek Adams' mind.

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I’m sure Adams didn’t even read any of the stuff put on here, probably thought the same as Bobby Williamson. Most people are now behind him, the 28 per cent were also very vocal of their faith and support of him and encouraged others to do the same. Everyone falls in line broadly united. (Even I’ve stopped criticising and have said he probably is the best choice going forward despite that I probably would still vote go in a snap poll) but it’s now that 28% that are now, the ones picking old scabs and driving a wedge back.

ETA ridiculous autochange swear filter and not my wording even though I was using it in a completely different context.
 
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HC Green":13qayde1 said:
Green_Flash":13qayde1 said:
"I think you will find that Adams was alluding to the fact that many of the keyboard warriors fans on social media including Pasoti obviously don’t want him as manager of PAFC.

Four months ago there were calls for him to be sacked because he was out of his depth, tactically inept, lost the dressing room etc. Now after a few wins the same fans are saying he will be poached, off to somewhere better."

If that is the case he needs to grow up - he is a football manager - it is a well paid but precarious job which demands results. The first 2 months of the season were terrible in every way, we were rooted to the bottom and getting thrashed most weeks, Adams did look out of his depth and he was getting the tactics wrong. relegation back to League 2 would have set the club back years. He would have faced calls to be sacked on that basis from any club in the country. He turned it around, he changed his tactics, it is paying dividends. Now people are scared of losing him (although I don't think so - for reasons stated at the top of the thread). It is all natural and understandable.

There was one group of supporters who never doubted Adams and that was the Board.

Or they couldn’t afford it. If that was the case they are hardly likely to go telling all and sundry, that’s the case and they don’t actually have faith in him.
 
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MarkMatthews":1gmsl5zp said:
HC Green":1gmsl5zp said:
Green_Flash":1gmsl5zp said:
"I think you will find that Adams was alluding to the fact that many of the keyboard warriors fans on social media including Pasoti obviously don’t want him as manager of PAFC.

Four months ago there were calls for him to be sacked because he was out of his depth, tactically inept, lost the dressing room etc. Now after a few wins the same fans are saying he will be poached, off to somewhere better."

If that is the case he needs to grow up - he is a football manager - it is a well paid but precarious job which demands results. The first 2 months of the season were terrible in every way, we were rooted to the bottom and getting thrashed most weeks, Adams did look out of his depth and he was getting the tactics wrong. relegation back to League 2 would have set the club back years. He would have faced calls to be sacked on that basis from any club in the country. He turned it around, he changed his tactics, it is paying dividends. Now people are scared of losing him (although I don't think so - for reasons stated at the top of the thread). It is all natural and understandable.

There was one group of supporters who never doubted Adams and that was the Board.

Or they couldn’t afford it. If that was the case they are hardly likely to go telling all and sundry, that’s the case and they don’t actually have faith in him.

Mark are you seriously now trying to tell us that the board don't have faith in Adams?
 
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MarkMatthews":329xr635 said:
HC Green":329xr635 said:
Green_Flash":329xr635 said:
"I think you will find that Adams was alluding to the fact that many of the keyboard warriors fans on social media including Pasoti obviously don’t want him as manager of PAFC.

Four months ago there were calls for him to be sacked because he was out of his depth, tactically inept, lost the dressing room etc. Now after a few wins the same fans are saying he will be poached, off to somewhere better."

If that is the case he needs to grow up - he is a football manager - it is a well paid but precarious job which demands results. The first 2 months of the season were terrible in every way, we were rooted to the bottom and getting thrashed most weeks, Adams did look out of his depth and he was getting the tactics wrong. relegation back to League 2 would have set the club back years. He would have faced calls to be sacked on that basis from any club in the country. He turned it around, he changed his tactics, it is paying dividends. Now people are scared of losing him (although I don't think so - for reasons stated at the top of the thread). It is all natural and understandable.

There was one group of supporters who never doubted Adams and that was the Board.

Or they couldn’t afford it. If that was the case they are hardly likely to go telling all and sundry, that’s the case and they don’t actually have faith in him.


Mark, yes they would and they did, because all and sundry were asking them and sometimes telling them to sack Adams, the reply was always the same.
 
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Quizmike":1iff8pcz said:
MarkMatthews":1iff8pcz said:
HC Green":1iff8pcz said:
Green_Flash":1iff8pcz said:
"I think you will find that Adams was alluding to the fact that many of the keyboard warriors fans on social media including Pasoti obviously don’t want him as manager of PAFC.

Four months ago there were calls for him to be sacked because he was out of his depth, tactically inept, lost the dressing room etc. Now after a few wins the same fans are saying he will be poached, off to somewhere better."

If that is the case he needs to grow up - he is a football manager - it is a well paid but precarious job which demands results. The first 2 months of the season were terrible in every way, we were rooted to the bottom and getting thrashed most weeks, Adams did look out of his depth and he was getting the tactics wrong. relegation back to League 2 would have set the club back years. He would have faced calls to be sacked on that basis from any club in the country. He turned it around, he changed his tactics, it is paying dividends. Now people are scared of losing him (although I don't think so - for reasons stated at the top of the thread). It is all natural and understandable.

There was one group of supporters who never doubted Adams and that was the Board.

Or they couldn’t afford it. If that was the case they are hardly likely to go telling all and sundry, that’s the case and they don’t actually have faith in him.

Mark are you seriously now trying to tell us that the board don't have faith in Adams?

No, but I wouldn’t be surprised if privately, they regretted giving such a long contract at our lowest point in November. I bet it would have been discussed, whether they could afford and whether or not to sack him.
 
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HC Green":3k6dg21m said:
MarkMatthews":3k6dg21m said:
HC Green":3k6dg21m said:
Green_Flash":3k6dg21m said:
"I think you will find that Adams was alluding to the fact that many of the keyboard warriors fans on social media including Pasoti obviously don’t want him as manager of PAFC.

Four months ago there were calls for him to be sacked because he was out of his depth, tactically inept, lost the dressing room etc. Now after a few wins the same fans are saying he will be poached, off to somewhere better."

If that is the case he needs to grow up - he is a football manager - it is a well paid but precarious job which demands results. The first 2 months of the season were terrible in every way, we were rooted to the bottom and getting thrashed most weeks, Adams did look out of his depth and he was getting the tactics wrong. relegation back to League 2 would have set the club back years. He would have faced calls to be sacked on that basis from any club in the country. He turned it around, he changed his tactics, it is paying dividends. Now people are scared of losing him (although I don't think so - for reasons stated at the top of the thread). It is all natural and understandable.

There was one group of supporters who never doubted Adams and that was the Board.

Or they couldn’t afford it. If that was the case they are hardly likely to go telling all and sundry, that’s the case and they don’t actually have faith in him.


Mark, yes they would and they did, because all and sundry were asking them and sometimes telling them to sack Adams, the reply was always the same.

But that’s the point isn’t it. If (and I appreciate it’s speculating) but if they couldn’t afford to sack him, then they would publicly back him regardless of whether they wished they could sack him.
 
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blokes flying, stock never been higher.......hopefully another club pay us a few quid to take him, as team will need proper investment soon to improve
 

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Pele10":1ycrsuw2 said:
hopefully another club pay us a few quid to take him, as team will need proper investment soon to improve

Eh?

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Mark, the board know the amount of work that he puts in, the level of his commitment, the quality of research he organises to sign players who have been released from other clubs. Regardless of your opinion about his attitude towards our Academy lads, he is frequently seen at their games and must be well in touch with their abilities. One issue that I do agree with you about is Alex Battle but I accept that DA is in a far better position to judge than you or I.

Can you not accept that the signing of Carey, Jervis, Songo'o, Bradley, Threlkeld, Fox, Taylor, Sarcevic, Lameiras and Edwards, to name the most obvious, was shrewd business?

Are you seriously suggesting that the board, for one second, considered sacking Derek Adams in September/October?

I think that the only contact James Brent and Martyn Starnes would have had with him would have been "How can we help?". Consequently, he was able to sign Diagouraga and Letheren outside the transfer window and, when the goalkeeper crisis deepened further, Matthews and Roos on emergency loans. I would suggest to you that there are very few managers in the EFL who would have done a better job at extricating us from the problems that he faced in that period.

Whilst grudgingly acknowledging that he is the best manager available, you are still desperately trying to justify your obvious and confusing dislike for him.
 
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Not sure, lets see whos available in May.

Could club turn down offer from lets say a Norwich of 500k?
 
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MarkMatthews":zit1kz7x said:
HC Green":zit1kz7x said:
MarkMatthews":zit1kz7x said:
HC Green":zit1kz7x said:
Green_Flash":zit1kz7x said:
"I think you will find that Adams was alluding to the fact that many of the keyboard warriors fans on social media including Pasoti obviously don’t want him as manager of PAFC.

Four months ago there were calls for him to be sacked because he was out of his depth, tactically inept, lost the dressing room etc. Now after a few wins the same fans are saying he will be poached, off to somewhere better."

If that is the case he needs to grow up - he is a football manager - it is a well paid but precarious job which demands results. The first 2 months of the season were terrible in every way, we were rooted to the bottom and getting thrashed most weeks, Adams did look out of his depth and he was getting the tactics wrong. relegation back to League 2 would have set the club back years. He would have faced calls to be sacked on that basis from any club in the country. He turned it around, he changed his tactics, it is paying dividends. Now people are scared of losing him (although I don't think so - for reasons stated at the top of the thread). It is all natural and understandable.

There was one group of supporters who never doubted Adams and that was the Board.

Or they couldn’t afford it. If that was the case they are hardly likely to go telling all and sundry, that’s the case and they don’t actually have faith in him.


Mark, yes they would and they did, because all and sundry were asking them and sometimes telling them to sack Adams, the reply was always the same.

But that’s the point isn’t it. If (and I appreciate it’s speculating) but if they couldn’t afford to sack him, then they would publicly back him regardless of whether they wished they could sack him.

Just exactly is the point of raking over cool coals at this moment. DA has pulled us through a sticky patch with returning injured players and some shrewd loan inward transfers It is QED in my book. As for DA being poached away, well, I consider, he has not yet got the right level of entries in his record book to be a hot attraction for a managerless Championship Club. There is no panic situation. Let's look forward to the remaining games for the rest of the season