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esmer":ugyzddac said:
GreenGuy":ugyzddac said:
marin(er)":ugyzddac said:
Wow, is that a glimpse of what might be happening? You see, this plan B is shrouded in mystery. but what I do know is this, unless of course it's changed.
Brent wants to provide the club with the money it needs less the money he gets back from the council for the football ground. He then wants to hand the club 'back' to the community. whether he will want to hang on to shares etc. who knows but basically it seems he wants nothing to do with it. he will no doubt hang on to some nice little pockets of land for development purposes. ( please correct me if I am wrong.....)
Then there is this thing about the club. all sounds very nice. corporate governance, sustainable means etc. etc. But there's where it falls down. Its like trying to smuggle drugs lawfully. Football is corrupt from the top down, practically every club lives outside its means. If the club is run in the way you are saying it will die a slow,painful death witnessed by a dwindling support. The staff will be trimmed to virtually none and our squad will have to take an immediate adjustment getting rid of our last higher earners.
Heaneys 'money problems' have not been proved at all. No one knows what Heaneys money situation is but it has been stated by a solicitor that he has the money to complete a deal.
It's about time we faced the truth here. We are in the crap but have an offer to keep the club going and in the hands of people that can actually fight toe to toe with the rest of the football world. for me it's plan A or nothing because plan B is starting again in my eyes. Community lead... Phoenix, I think phoenix has the edge.

Your posts get more and more rediculous. I'm amazed you don't have the Cock of the Week award.

Brent has stated he is a reluctant bidder, but that if he bought the club he would be an entusiastic owner. Look at the effort he's putting in to get to today's Plan B meeting, when he could just stay in the shadows.

That other clubs do not live within their means is not a reason we should not. Have you learnt NOTHING from the last 3 years of mismanagement at Argyle? Brent stated we would have to live within our means, and that is as it should be. And we can do, once the last of the Championship wage players goes or takes a pay cut. With the 55% rule in league 2, we can be in a good position with gates of 5000-7000.

As for Heaney's finances, read the other threads here. Remember that those behind Heaney, if there indeed is anyone still behind him now, apparently have zero interest in investing in the football club. We get - perhaps - a one-year pot of cash, and then we have to stand on our own feet. In that regard, Plan A and Plan B are not different, except with Plan B we get Brent keeping Ridsdale on a leash if he chooses to run with the Riddler as his chief exec. With Plan A, we have Ridsdale signing the cheques, and drawing a large consultancy fee. I know which plan I think is sustainable.
We wont be in a good position because a large chunk of our debt will have to be paid from income. Without further investment that a Ridsdale owned club may attract our wage bill will be one of the lowest in the league for years to come.

esmer - Given that you are clearly in the pro-PB camp and given that all the PB has to do now is to complete the deal, which ought to be easy otherwise why are they the PB in the first place, I don't really understand why you feel the need to argue with the pro-Rescue Plan lobby or pick hypothetical holes in the Rescue Plan. The Rescue Plan is surely irrelevant because the PB will shortly be completing the deal. What's the problem? Just sit back, relax and wait for your preferred outcome to occur as it surely will do. Won't it?
 
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There's nothing hypothetical about the fact that without additional funding we are in for some lean times.It's not picking holes, it's stating facts.
 

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esmer":1mb1eaju said:
There's nothing hypothetical about the fact that without additional funding we are in for some lean times.It's not picking holes, it's stating facts.

You have missed my point. My point was that given your obvious support for the PB deal, YOU don't need to comment critically on the Rescue Plan because it is irrelevant as far as the PB deal is concerned. The PB deal will go through soon - after all what is there to stop it? As far as I can see there's absolutely no reason for you to point out flaws (real or perceived) in the Rescue Plan and by doing so you only serve to feed the idea that the PBs deal won't complete for some reason. The horse you have backed is winning the race - in fact it's the only horse in the race. There is no threat to it from other horses, they are all securely shut up in the stables. I don't know why you are the least bit interested in them.
 
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Did anyone work out why / if Risdale went to see the Herald Editor ? or is Esmer successfully side tracking everyone...

Where's Rupert when required??? (Cardiff??)
 
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P@blo":29yelap7 said:
Did anyone work out why / if Ridsdale went to see the Herald Editor ? or is Esmer successfully side tracking everyone...

Where's Rupert when required??? (Cardiff??)





Rupert":29yelap7 said:
bizzay1":29yelap7 said:
Anyways, why did the riddler go to see the herald editor ??

Argyle chairmen popping in to our place to see the editor(s) is hardly rare. It has happened enough times in the past.
 
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John Petrie":3re98mfv said:
Another thread and Esmer again telling us that Ridsdale will be more likely to attract investment into a club with no assets.

Well Es, why?

Who would you rather make an investment with, Peter Ridsdale and a club with no assets, or, a successful businessman and a club with its ground and surrounding land?

Your posts astound me. You keep saying this thing about ground separation and asset stripping. We don't have any assets, we never did actually. The ground was always rented and then purchased by way of a loan.
From what you are saying here it would seem that Brent is buying the ground and the land and donating it to the club.
please let us in on this exceptional bit of news.
 
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The Doctor":3vp9r8bk said:
esmer":3vp9r8bk said:
There's nothing hypothetical about the fact that without additional funding we are in for some lean times.It's not picking holes, it's stating facts.

You have missed my point. My point was that given your obvious support for the PB deal, YOU don't need to comment critically on the Rescue Plan because it is irrelevant as far as the PB deal is concerned. The PB deal will go through soon - after all what is there to stop it? As far as I can see there's absolutely no reason for you to point out flaws (real or perceived) in the Rescue Plan and by doing so you only serve to feed the idea that the PBs deal won't complete for some reason. The horse you have backed is winning the race - in fact it's the only horse in the race. There is no threat to it from other horses, they are all securely shut up in the stables. I don't know why you are the least bit interested in them.

Think he deliberately missed your point Doc.
Your point was clear and well made.

Slippery as an eel is Esmer, reminds me of someone :)
 
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marin(er)":2tg6j4gj said:
John Petrie":2tg6j4gj said:
Another thread and Esmer again telling us that Ridsdale will be more likely to attract investment into a club with no assets.

Well Es, why?

Who would you rather make an investment with, Peter Ridsdale and a club with no assets, or, a successful businessman and a club with its ground and surrounding land?

Your posts astound me. You keep saying this thing about ground separation and asset stripping. We don't have any assets, we never did actually. The ground was always rented and then purchased by way of a loan.
From what you are saying here it would seem that Brent is buying the ground and the land and donating it to the club.
please let us in on this exceptional bit of news.

Of course the ground is an asset.

Definition as follows;
An asset is a resource controlled by the entity as a result of past events and from which future economic benefits are expected to flow to the entity.

As such it would be recorded as a non-current asset in the Statement of Financial Position. Any loan used to make the purchase would be recorded as a liability.
 
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P@blo":2v1eh8nj said:
Did anyone work out why / if Ridsdale went to see the Herald Editor ? or is Esmer successfully side tracking everyone...

Where's Rupert when required??? (Cardiff??)

Cardiff? Got better things to do. Producing two newspapers...

:roll:
 

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TCM - I have a very good friend who writes just like you . He's Dutch . Absolute truth .
hay greengenes,well theres the thing,ive traveld most of my life and when i write it down it does seem to come out a bit wierd,a mix of german french and spanish,and i lived in rottedam a bit so,not a excuse just the way it is,but saying that iam pure devonion and that doesnt help :)
 

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The Doctor":1el7607n said:
esmer":1el7607n said:
There's nothing hypothetical about the fact that without additional funding we are in for some lean times.It's not picking holes, it's stating facts.

You have missed my point. My point was that given your obvious support for the PB deal, YOU don't need to comment critically on the Rescue Plan because it is irrelevant as far as the PB deal is concerned. The PB deal will go through soon - after all what is there to stop it? As far as I can see there's absolutely no reason for you to point out flaws (real or perceived) in the Rescue Plan and by doing so you only serve to feed the idea that the PBs deal won't complete for some reason. The horse you have backed is winning the race - in fact it's the only horse in the race. There is no threat to it from other horses, they are all securely shut up in the stables. I don't know why you are the least bit interested in them.
You can't be a real doctor for real doctors don't have trouble reading. I'm very concerned whether the PB's have the money to complete the bid and I am very supportive of plan B, even if it would mean hard times. If your going to comment on my posts please read them properly
 
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John Petrie":2zpkjg6e said:
Another thread and Esmer again telling us that Ridsdale will be more likely to attract investment into a club with no assets.

Well Es, why?

Who would you rather make an investment with, Peter Ridsdale and a club with no assets, or, a successful businessman and a club with its ground and surrounding land?
Once more. The ground is no longer an asset it will be sold to Heaney or Brent to build a hotel or whatever in the car park. As far as the football club goes (or in Brent's case side of the business) it has no equity. Brent has stated clearly that he will not invest in the football club, we have to "live within our means", it is possible, repeat possible, Ridsdale could attract funding from people wishing to invest in a football club alone, just possible.
 
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Pafcintheplace":f3o3pdv9 said:
The Doctor":f3o3pdv9 said:
esmer":f3o3pdv9 said:
There's nothing hypothetical about the fact that without additional funding we are in for some lean times.It's not picking holes, it's stating facts.

You have missed my point. My point was that given your obvious support for the PB deal, YOU don't need to comment critically on the Rescue Plan because it is irrelevant as far as the PB deal is concerned. The PB deal will go through soon - after all what is there to stop it? As far as I can see there's absolutely no reason for you to point out flaws (real or perceived) in the Rescue Plan and by doing so you only serve to feed the idea that the PBs deal won't complete for some reason. The horse you have backed is winning the race - in fact it's the only horse in the race. There is no threat to it from other horses, they are all securely shut up in the stables. I don't know why you are the least bit interested in them.

Think he deliberately missed your point Doc.
Your point was clear and well made.

Slippery as an eel is Esmer, reminds me of someone :)
Like many of his ilk, you included, probably, he is making points based on facts that exist only in his own imagination.
 
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Right i just read all of that and i am off the bed not know what the Hell The Riddler went to the Hearld for

Is Esmer The Riddler ??????

Is Keith Todd on PASOTI

Will Argyle sign a striker

Who knows