They really should be appointing the manager within a week of the season finishing
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Recruitment (in January)
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It's been said a few times that we're not going to start the process of looking for a manager until after we know what division we're going to be in. There's no need for a rushed appointment. Most of what will need to be done over the summer will come under Dewsnip's role to sort out anyway.
Recruitment in January is usually a bit of hit and miss. I'll therefore park digging into who we did sign, but as mentioned on the boards during the window and post, the lack of signing a striker has hit us hard. Once Hardie and Whittakers' goals dried up, we've had very limited options.
The manager/head coach reports to the Director of Football. The DoF (where clubs have one) usually sorts most of the off-field stuff that a manager would do at other clubs.
The general consensus seems to be that with the benefits of the Academy being at least 5 years away and an inability to attract serious investment, we have no chance of becoming an established Championship club and we should settle for being a top half League 1 club for the foreseeable future; how depressing after all the hard work of the last 4 or 5 years.
I'm eternally half-empty when it comes to Argyle but I don't see it that way.
We showed up to January that we could compete at this level, but once Foster really got to grips with the team, we slowly but surely started to slide.
Those responsible for the disastrous appointment of Foster have a lot to answer for.
We lost our ability to out-smart our wealthier opponents, not just with the appointment of Foster, but by a really poor January transfer window in signing players who as a collective group, added very little to the squad.
With better management and decision making, I think we could survive as a lower mid-table Championship club.
I'm not saying that we could "do a Luton" and get an unlikely promotion to the Premier League, but I don't accept we cannot compete at this level.
Let's hope Norwich come good for us next Saturday.
I'm eternally half-empty when it comes to Argyle but I don't see it that way.
We showed up to January that we could compete at this level, but once Foster really got to grips with the team, we slowly but surely started to slide.
Those responsible for the disastrous appointment of Foster have a lot to answer for.
We lost our ability to out-smart our wealthier opponents, not just with the appointment of Foster, but by a really poor January transfer window in signing players who as a collective group, added very little to the squad.
With better management and decision making, I think we could survive as a lower mid-table Championship club.
I'm not saying that we could "do a Luton" and get an unlikely promotion to the Premier League, but I don't accept we cannot compete at this level.
Let's hope Norwich come good for us next Saturday.
Totally agree.......
Post January we haven't laid a glove. Leicester was outstanding effort all round, but it was only a freak result, as MGM regularly points out, what is this teams identity, I feel the lack of any different attacking options is the difference, but I feel no doubt we could have been pro active with recruitment from lower leagues and abroad
I regret to say that I'm feeling all this "weact smarter than others" has proved to be nothing more than a marketing spiel. We've been outsmarted by most of those teams that were below us a couple of months ago. Plus our recruitment (manager and players) has been terrible. Warnock would have seen us home, I believe.
I don't think it's marketing spiel, last season proved that.
We won the Division with a mid-table budget.
As I said, poor management and poor decision making have been our undoing since January.
I couldn't agree more.
It's actually quite arrogant to suggest that we are smarter than other clubs or will "out smart" them.
And the suggestion that we are better because we have data driven analysis is ludicrous. Do people honestly think that other clubs don't utilise that approach. In all honesty we are like a Poundland Brighton in that regard. If De Zerbi goes Brighton will know exactly who they want to replace him.
I'm afraid that whilst Mr Hallett has done wonders, in so many ways its same old Argyle. The decision to appoint Foster was inexplicable . To allow him to remain in post for so long was reprehensible and the decision not to appoint a permanent replacement or experienced caretaker like Warnock smacks of incompetance and penny pinching.
Once again conveniently overlooking the fact we may have been competing up to January but by then other teams had susssed us out, our away form was dreadful and we has lost our engine room and manager.
So what's been smarter? We were told we had contingency for all outcomes. We didn't have contingency for the most damaging (and most likely) i.e. manager leaving. We didn't have contingency for losing our loan players in January. We used the success of last season to develop this "we are smarter rhetoric". Last season was largely down to SS and how he was able to galvanise the players and attract new. The smart ones have proved to be Blackburn, Stoke, Wednesday, Millwall, Swansea, QPR and maybe even Birmingham.
We have relied too much on data driven recruitment. People are not commodities.
Hopefully SH has had a wake up call in this respect.
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No need for a rush appointment? I’m not sure on that, I would like to think a appointment would be made within a couple weeks of season ending and would like to think there’s a list of names drawn up, one being for Championship and the other being for league 1
