New Nike England shirt

[Clarke B]

We're the current European champions in the women's game, presumably it's in reference to that.

You know what, I totally forgot about that.

 

[GreenThing]

I really don’t understand why people get so angry about these things. Say it is about the LGBTQ community then if it makes a few more people feel included in football then that is only a good thing. Also if anyone wants to use “woke” as an insult then they really need to look up the definition.

If it’s not about LGBTQ like they’ve said and it’s just a funky design then don’t buy it if you don’t like. Most people getting annoyed by it probably weren’t anyway.

Maybe the world needs to take up yoga and generally take a deep breath about all things.

Whether it’s to do with LGBTQ or just a funky design is not really the issue here, the problem is that the England flag is being changed. People from all over the world are proud of their flags, yet we’re made to feel that we should be ashamed of ours. Pop a rainbow flag somewhere on the shirt if you like, maybe have a nice funky design, but leave the flag as it is.

 

[The Unseen Green]

We're the current European champions in the women's game, presumably it's in reference to that.

It's not got a thing to do with anything besides 1966, but if it were the result of the women's team actually winning something then, for me, it's more power to them.
I mean, at least the women provide the success in the world of football - perhaps the men should ask them!

 

[Clarke B]

It's not got a thing to do with anything besides 1966, but if it were the result of the women's team actually winning something then, for me, it's more power to them.
I mean, at least the women provide the success in the world of football - perhaps the men should ask them!

Brussels was refering to my photo of the coffee mug taken in the England store.

 

[Clarke B]

PS I love the new home shirt, looking forward to wearing it at Wembley tonight. The cross is barely noticeable. A massive fuss about nothing.

 

[AdelaideGreen]

Big deal about not a lot.

Don't know why they did it but 'ho hum'.

 

[unhinched]

Whether it’s to do with LGBTQ or just a funky design is not really the issue here, the problem is that the England flag is being changed. People from all over the world are proud of their flags, yet we’re made to feel that we should be ashamed of ours. Pop a rainbow flag somewhere on the shirt if you like, maybe have a nice funky design, but leave the flag as it is.

Being proud of your flag is the antithesis of globalism.
It's not Nike's first controversial act.
I'd go further and say I'd hate a rainbow flag on an England shirt - not because I hate people who choose to identify in various ways - but because it also would be a very divisive. Many people would feel they are being forced to go along with ideologies that they might not buy in to, in whole or part.
In fact I'd hate ANY other flag on the England shirt because it's all inevitably so divisive. Can you imagine a Palestine or Israel flag on the shirt to ' show solidarity with ..'
The St George's flag unites ( as does the tricolour or tricolore of Italy and France) although there have been various attempts to stop even that by certain political types suggesting that putting one up in your window or on your white van is somehow an act of veiled racism.
Time to wise up to those who constantly seek to divide us. ' Romanesque Divide and Conquer ?'
Football is effortlessly one of the most unifying things on the planet - ( unless it's Derby Day !) Leave it to football to be about football Nike / English FA.

 

[unhinched]

It seems any publicity is good publicity & Nike seem to be getting plenty of it today.

Not sure Bud Light would agree !

 

[smudja]

It's not even an England flag on the collar, it's just a colourful cross.. not a rectangular shape with a white background and red cross.

 

[J Y Kelly]

Being proud of your flag is the antithesis of globalism.
It's not Nike's first controversial act.
I'd go further and say I'd hate a rainbow flag on an England shirt - not because I hate people who choose to identify in various ways - but because it also would be a very divisive. Many people would feel they are being forced to go along with ideologies that they might not buy in to, in whole or part.
In fact I'd hate ANY other flag on the England shirt because it's all inevitably so divisive. Can you imagine a Palestine or Israel flag on the shirt to ' show solidarity with ..'
The St George's flag unites ( as does the tricolour or tricolore of Italy and France) although there have been various attempts to stop even that by certain political types suggesting that putting one up in your window or on your white van is somehow an act of veiled racism.
Time to wise up to those who constantly seek to divide us. ' Romanesque Divide and Conquer ?'
Football is effortlessly one of the most unifying things on the planet - ( unless it's Derby Day !) Leave it to football to be about football Nike / English FA.

The St. George's flag unites... everyone else to support the team that England are playing 🙂

 

[smudja]

3 lions is what has always been on England cricket and football shirts, the symbols of unity

 

[Brussels Bureaucrat]

You could be wrong , you could be right - (as John Lydon said in 'Rise')
But if the Nike quote didn't come straight out of the David Brent school of BS , we might have a clue.

Nike quote? You've completely lost me, England are the current women's European champions. Or is that woke as well?

 

[Daz]

For me, the England (football) flag is The Three Lions. The FA is a private entity, has it's own branding and is NOT a State organisation.

We now have the Prime Minister saying that national flags should not be tampered with. So where was Rishi or his predecessor in 2012 when the eyes of the World were upon London and our athletes were wearing these.....

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The Union flag is unique and recognisable on these kits. The St George’s Cross isn’t in the new one, that’s the issue.

 

[Daz]

Nike quote? You've completely lost me, England are the current women's European champions. Or is that woke as well?

The Nike quote he is referring to is about them saying they’ve done a playful update to
unite - it clearly hasn’t done that. No one, literally no one would have said a thing if it was just the St George’s Cross on the collar.

The mug with European champions on is clearly related to the Women team which means poor old Clarke B has to go on a diversity course to remember England is not just the men’s team, it’s the women’s as well. 😂

 

[aNorthernSoul]

It’s just a really tedious debate. It shows the priority of politicians though. They could have easily kicked up a stink at the prices Nike are charging and had an easy PR win. Instead they have decided to feed into a non-existent culture war to whip up already angry people in a move that benefits no one.