Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)

[IJN]

I heard that Mansfield have made a good offer!

 

[IJN]

Why is that Argyle can't compete financially with other clubs in the bottom two divisions when Home Park has some of the largest gates outside the Championship ?

Forget this stuff about Mason not fitting into the formation. Adams obviously wanted him but did not have the playing budget. Yet other clubs in League One and Two can afford him it seems.

Do you think MK Dons and Mansfield can ‘afford’ it?

Of course they can’t, that’s the point of Simon Hallett’s strategy (and JB before him).

 

[dunlop]

Who needs a mason when we have a dozen brickies on site , time to move on.

 

[mervyn]

This business has made me reflect on the transformation in player/club transfers over the past thirty years. It was commonplace in the eighties to to see ex top flight stars seeing out their careers at our level, as we experienced with Bruce Grobbler, John Matthews, and many others.

Nowadays the wage gap between championship clubs and league one is so great that even the loss of one year’s championship wages could not be compensated over 3-4 years at our level, so even an aging championship player would be a mug to move, and is also more likely to have established a big enough pension pot to make such a move unnecessary. These wage levels are the reason all championship clubs made a loss last year, with the average loss being £11million.

 

[Keepitgreen]

Could be on his way back to the States. I believe their transfer window has just opened.

 

[Army green]

This business has made me reflect on the transformation in player/club transfers over the past thirty years. It was commonplace in the eighties to to see ex top flight stars seeing out their careers at our level, as we experienced with Bruce Grobbler, John Matthews, and many others.

Nowadays the wage gap between championship clubs and league one is so great that even the loss of one year’s championship wages could not be compensated over 3-4 years at our level, so even an aging championship player would be a mug to move, and is also more likely to have established a big enough pension pot to make such a move unnecessary. These wage levels are the reason all championship clubs made a loss last year, with the average loss being £11million.

How is an average loss of £11million per annum sustainable? Why are we not seeing clubs in financial trouble if they are losing that much? I don’t get it. Surely not all clubs owners are preapared to cover such a loss year in year out?

 

[Knibbsworth]

Sad news, really thought it was going to happen. He would have been beloved if he'd have come back.

That said I did think he must have had some demands to make the Charlton owner turn Bowyer down.

The owner turned Bowyer down because he already had 3 strikers on the books.

What Football League club hasn't already got three strikers?

Argyle have Ladapo, Taylor, Joel Grant and Alex Fletcher and still wanted Joe Mason.

 

[Pogleswoody]

Sad news, really thought it was going to happen. He would have been beloved if he'd have come back.

That said I did think he must have had some demands to make the Charlton owner turn Bowyer down.

The owner turned Bowyer down because he already had 3 strikers on the books.

What Football League club hasn't already got three strikers?

Argyle have Ladapo, Taylor, Joel Grant and Alex Fletcher and still wanted Joe Mason.

Errrm the ..... 'out till next season' Joel Grant? I think that's the point!!

 

[oldage]

Grant is unlikely to play again this season and Fletcher lacks experience.

 

[lyndhurst green]

Grant is unlikely to play again this season and Fletcher lacks experience.

Pretty hard to get experience if you never get on the park.

 

[mervyn]

This business has made me reflect on the transformation in player/club transfers over the past thirty years. It was commonplace in the eighties to to see ex top flight stars seeing out their careers at our level, as we experienced with Bruce Grobbler, John Matthews, and many others.

Nowadays the wage gap between championship clubs and league one is so great that even the loss of one year’s championship wages could not be compensated over 3-4 years at our level, so even an aging championship player would be a mug to move, and is also more likely to have established a big enough pension pot to make such a move unnecessary. These wage levels are the reason all championship clubs made a loss last year, with the average loss being £11million.

How is an average loss of £11million per annum sustainable? Why are we not seeing clubs in financial trouble if they are losing that much? I don’t get it. Surely not all clubs owners are preapared to cover such a loss year in year out?

You're right. This was my first reaction when I read the Guardian article on this last year. I think one club, Birmingham, nearly broke even, whilst all the rest produced that average loss figure. Even Ipswich, a club which used to be a byword for staying within their means, have debts above the £11 million average. I think the worst (I have a shaky memory) was Bolton at around £50 million.

 

[Kentishgreen]

Not a major surprise. Not too many Championship players would come to L1 or 2 and not many, if any, of the latter could afford the wages of the former

 

[mervyn]

This business has made me reflect on the transformation in player/club transfers over the past thirty years. It was commonplace in the eighties to to see ex top flight stars seeing out their careers at our level, as we experienced with Bruce Grobbler, John Matthews, and many others.

Nowadays the wage gap between championship clubs and league one is so great that even the loss of one year’s championship wages could not be compensated over 3-4 years at our level, so even an aging championship player would be a mug to move, and is also more likely to have established a big enough pension pot to make such a move unnecessary. These wage levels are the reason all championship clubs made a loss last year, with the average loss being £11million.

How is an average loss of £11million per annum sustainable? Why are we not seeing clubs in financial trouble if they are losing that much? I don’t get it. Surely not all clubs owners are preapared to cover such a loss year in year out?

You're right. This was my first reaction when I read the Guardian article on this last year. I think one club, Birmingham, nearly broke even, whilst all the rest produced that average loss figure. Even Ipswich, a club which used to be a byword for staying within their means, have debts above the £11 million average. I think the worst (I have a shaky memory) was Bolton at around £50 million.

Sorry to keep adding bits, but here’s the part of the report I found most staggering. 13 of the Championship clubs for that year spent more on wages than their entire revenue. Whew.

 

[Biggs]

Jephcott as well, remember. Who I assume is now way ahead of Fletcher in the pecking order.

 

[Larry David]

Who is out there that we may be considering I wonder?