Home Park Development (PCC agenda 14th December 2pm)

[SWTT]

I see your point, but I think the idea that those that object to HHP should have the same objections to a skate park is a bit too reductive.

Supporting HHP on the basis of lack of objection to a skate park is as worthless as objecting HHP over car parking.

 

[gaspargomez]

But a vets and pot holed car park is?

Just a thought.

What Brent wants to do is on a completely different scale though. You can hardly compare the visual impact of an open car park and small vets building with hotel and office blocks. I am really not surprised people are complaining- they are quite entitled to. It's not like this stuff directly benefits the football club.

But it's for the Council to decide at the end of the day, not me or you. Personally I think they will grant permission.

 

[IJN]

Where were these people when the Life Centre was being planned?

Do you think they objected then?

 

[gaspargomez]

The Life Centre replaced two existing buildings- the Mayflower Centre and Central Park Swimming Pool.

Hey, perhaps we should set up a town planning discussion forum? What are your views on the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre?

 

[PL2 3DQ]

The Life Centre replaced two existing buildings- the Mayflower Centre and Central Park Swimming Pool.

Hey, perhaps we should set up a town planning discussion forum? What are your views on the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre?

I don't live in Norwich so I wouldn't have a view.

The Life Centre was built on green park land, granted - the grass lost was replaced elsewhere in Central Park but an ancient hedgerow, trees and a lane were lost completely.

The proposed new development will be built on land where buildings or concrete already exists.

 

[Baby Face Johnson]

The Life Centre replaced two existing buildings- the Mayflower Centre and Central Park Swimming Pool.

Hey, perhaps we should set up a town planning discussion forum? What are your views on the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre?

I don't live in Norwich so I wouldn't have a view.

The Life Centre was built on green park land, granted - the grass lost was replaced elsewhere in Central Park but an ancient hedgerow, trees and a lane were lost completely.

The proposed new development will be built on land where buildings or concrete already exists.

But you might if you were a life-long Norwich City fan who no longer lived in the city and it had a direct impact on the football club you had supported all your life.

*or if you were Alan Partridge, obviously.

 

[PL2 3DQ]

The Life Centre replaced two existing buildings- the Mayflower Centre and Central Park Swimming Pool.

Hey, perhaps we should set up a town planning discussion forum? What are your views on the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre?

I don't live in Norwich so I wouldn't have a view.

The Life Centre was built on green park land, granted - the grass lost was replaced elsewhere in Central Park but an ancient hedgerow, trees and a lane were lost completely.

The proposed new development will be built on land where buildings or concrete already exists.

But you might if you were a life-long Norwich City fan who no longer lived in the city and it had a direct impact on the football club you had supported all your life.

*or if you were Alan Partridge, obviously.

So it's not 'boring now' ?

 

[Baby Face Johnson]

Nice diversion rather than addressing the point.

 

[PL2 3DQ]

Nice diversion rather than addressing the point.

I was just pointing out your earlier post where you said the topic is boring and yet you've carried on and on and tried to shut down anyone with a different opinion to yours.

As for your point, it would depend if the developer in Norwich was someone who I had an agenda against and would object to anything he attempted to do from my home 300 miles away. But I'm not that small minded.

 

[Baby Face Johnson]

Nice diversion rather than addressing the point.

I was just pointing out your earlier post where you said the topic is boring and yet you've carried on and on and tried to shut down anyone with a different opinion to yours.

As for your point, it would depend if the developer in Norwich was someone who I had an agenda against and would object to anything he attempted to do from my home 300 miles away. But I'm not that small minded.

What on earth are you talking about?

 

[Electronic]

Precisely what Ian say. I don’t go obecting or supporting plannng projects in other cities. I don’t live in them.

You probably weren't born/grew up in them either...or have a lifelong affinity with the football club which is being affected by those projects?

 

[Electronic]

The Life Centre replaced two existing buildings- the Mayflower Centre and Central Park Swimming Pool.

Hey, perhaps we should set up a town planning discussion forum? What are your views on the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre?

I don't live in Norwich so I wouldn't have a view.

The Life Centre was built on green park land, granted - the grass lost was replaced elsewhere in Central Park but an ancient hedgerow, trees and a lane were lost completely.

The proposed new development will be built on land where buildings or concrete already exists.

But you might if you were a life-long Norwich City fan who no longer lived in the city and it had a direct impact on the football club you had supported all your life.

*or if you were Alan Partridge, obviously.

So it's not 'boring now' ?

He's right though

 

[Ollieargyle9]

The Life Centre replaced two existing buildings- the Mayflower Centre and Central Park Swimming Pool.

Hey, perhaps we should set up a town planning discussion forum? What are your views on the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre?

I don't live in Norwich so I wouldn't have a view.

The Life Centre was built on green park land, granted - the grass lost was replaced elsewhere in Central Park but an ancient hedgerow, trees and a lane were lost completely.

The proposed new development will be built on land where buildings or concrete already exists.

But you might if you were a life-long Norwich City fan who no longer lived in the city and it had a direct impact on the football club you had supported all your life.

*or if you were Alan Partridge, obviously.

So it's not 'boring now' ?

He's right though

Is he? Strikes me as a bit selfish in all honesty.

I love Argyle and believe these plans will do the club a lot of good. I've said as much on here and with friends but as a non-Plymouth resident that's where it stops for me.

This development is about far more than Argyle, you're talking new facilities, new jobs, more visitors, more trade, movement of the ice rink to enable yet further investment into the city. On the other hand however you have the traffic implications, parking pressures, impact on small businesses, additional noise pollution, further commercialisation of the park.

None of these things really impact upon those of us who aren't residents beyond small changes on our Saturday routine. I think it's selfish and hugely unfair for people who have moved away; usually because Plymouth didn't offer them the job prospects they wanted, to stand in the way of a project that creates jobs and growth in the city.

Yes your football team still resides here but as do the Plymouthians you left behind who kept their faith in the city, it's up to them and I think only them to decide how the city grows, they have to be the ones weighing up the benefits listed above against the sacrifices people will have to make because it is the residents who will be making them, not John from say London who has to drive around for a parking space for an extra 10 minutes one Saturday a month.

 

[IJN]

It's strange isn't it, so many on this thread, and yet so few on the Argyle in the Community thread.

I wonder why?

 

[Biggs]

I agree with a lot of that, Ollie. But to say 'the Plymouthians you left behind who kept their faith in the city' is completely and utterly wrong.

You cannot possibly say that all Argyle fans who have left Plymouth have done so because they have lost faith in the city and imply they have 'left behind' other Plymothians. I imagine most have been forced away due to lack of jobs or various other necessities.

I may have misread what you've said, in which case I apologise. But I don't think so, and it leaves a bit of a nasty taste in the mouth.