Mike Greening":3op5492p said:
And there it is. The dictionary definition of the Plymouth attitude
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And there it is. The dictionary definition of the Plymouth attitude
dunlop":3o0xg8nx said:
It's not apathy, it's recognizing the rising cost of building such enterprizes. JB might just surprise everyone in the end and it might just start. The Grandstand that is. :greensmile:
Pointblank":d7v5vmxw said:
Impending payment due (not sure when, but not in the distant future) to clear debt (not sure exactly how much, but more than a packet of balloons)
Club hierarchy quoted as saying our only hope of meeting this payment is the completion of the HHP development :sad:
Thank the Lord for U.T.L. !!
If anybody can put a bit of meat on the bones like how big a balloon it is then please feel free. I mean is it a whoopi cushion or an Ibiza Bananna Boat as size does matter !
If anybody can put a bit of meat on the bones like how big a balloon it is then please feel free. I mean is it a whoopi cushion or an Ibiza Bananna Boat as size does matter !
up_the_line":1vlxwrms said:
Or of course, we could down the other route of shouting our vacuous gobs off, not allowing for what must inevitably going on in the background.
Perhaps it's pointing out that what was said at a Q&A might have changed since that time.
'There is no Plan B' might have been right then, it might not be now.
Just a thought.
Pointblank":2v3awq69 said:
My understanding (and please butt in a correct me if I am wrong) of the situation is that Brent's agreement with the football creditors to pay off the debt when he took charge of the club was that 50% would be paid in manageable installments over a 5 year period and the other 50% would be paid in one lump sum. That lump sum is the balloon payment, and is estimated to be in the region of 2 - 3 million pounds due October 2016. Brent's plan, and only plan, to settle that part of the debt was to use part of the profit made from the HHP development. With HHP a seeming dead duck, questions are being raised as to how Brent will be able to pay off the money owed to the football creditors - the failure to pay the balloon payment could be disastrous, of course.
And I believe I ready before Brent's budgets for the balloon payment was based on the Grandstand being open this season (meaning from just this season he will be missing an extra £1m-£2m revenue from the grandstand which he was forecasting).spowell92":379hmuxv said:
IJN":31gwxeqe said:
The only vacuum is the vacuum of information coming out of the club.
The only inevitability is that people will assume we're no closer a solution if the club don't actually say they're actively working on an alternative strategy.
Sorry, but your hint that there is a highly secretive Plan B being hashed out deep in the corridors of Home Park is at odds with the last statements from the club on the matter, which is that HHP is the be all and end all so until Brent or Starnes come out and say they're working on Plan B I'll be referring to their latest stated position as opposed to some vaguely hypothetical Plan B that may or may not exist.
Please remind me what happened the last time we blithely 'allowed for what was inevitably happening in the background'.
No hint intended, I know nothing of what is going on either.
Just the thought process that they would do zero, nothing and sit there and wait until 2016 is just incredibly stupid.
I don't know what you do for a job UTL, but most of us have to plan, budget and forecast ahead by at least 9 months in advance, this situation needs even more time than that.
I'm not saying I don't worry, of course I do, but sometimes it's very dangerous to assume that those in a position to make decisions aren't making them, or not planning to.
So it's not a Janner 'let's wait and see' but some of us have enough faith to trust people.
Just the thought process that they would do zero, nothing and sit there and wait until 2016 is just incredibly stupid.
I don't know what you do for a job UTL, but most of us have to plan, budget and forecast ahead by at least 9 months in advance, this situation needs even more time than that.
I'm not saying I don't worry, of course I do, but sometimes it's very dangerous to assume that those in a position to make decisions aren't making them, or not planning to.
So it's not a Janner 'let's wait and see' but some of us have enough faith to trust people.
Fair enough Ian, it may be the case that an absolutely fantastic and sure thing Plan B has been worked up. If that's the case, why the hush hush? So much for honesty, openness and transparency... Blindly following based purely on faith in my opinion is burying your head in the sand, especially after the last time. So much for never again.
