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The New Kit 2017/18 (see page 27)

Your thoughts on new home kit

  • I like it

    Votes: 208 79.7%
  • I don't like it

    Votes: 27 10.3%
  • Undecided until seen in flesh

    Votes: 26 10.0%

  • Total voters
    261
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Biggs":1cqs29hu said:
Wigan away is pretty handy...

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I've banged this drum for a while now, but I don't know why we can't mix it up a bit with shades of green. Why NOT have dark green one season, and light green the next? We really don't require a full rebranding of the club for a shirt that lasts one season.

We own the colour green, we should take full advantage of it.
No, no, no, no, no.

I like the shade we have, but even I recognise that if/when we go lighter at home it should be for a considerable period. Ian bangs the drum for branding being a dirty word but an established identity, across all media and visual representations is important.

Yes we own green, now Yeovil have gone away, but save that (mint and lime) for rotating away shirt options. In doing so we will be saved from the rainbow nation away shirt embarrassment... THAT has actually become my line in the sand issue more than preserving the current green now, it should never happen again.

It must be so much nicer for exiles up north to be able to see Argyle play in green black and white these last two seasons.

But at home we should have a clear identity, have a shade and stick to it, no flitting about.
 

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X Isle":1ygo65q0 said:
I like the shade we have, but even I recognise that if/when we go lighter at home it should be for a considerable period. Ian bangs the drum for branding being a dirty word but an established identity, across all media and visual representations is important.

But at home we should have a clear identity, have a shade and stick to it, no flitting about.

I see where you're coming from, but the established and clear identity is GREEN. Are you seriously saying that we have a consistent identity in the last few seasons, with white stripes, shorts, sashes and god knows what else diluting the already dark green each year?

All of those kits have met the same responses from non-Argyle supporting friends... 'is that even green?'... 'why is it so dark?'... 'is that the away shirt?'.

It makes sense to change up the shade for aesthetic reasons, and it makes sense for financial reasons. People are far more likely to buy a shirt that offers something different from the previous year, especially with the annual change.

What do you think of the St Etienne shirts changing shade? Have they got it all wrong? Those shirts look a hell of a lot better than ours, and a hell of a lot more green.
 
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Biggs":3lc4l31r said:
X Isle":3lc4l31r said:
I like the shade we have, but even I recognise that if/when we go lighter at home it should be for a considerable period. Ian bangs the drum for branding being a dirty word but an established identity, across all media and visual representations is important.

But at home we should have a clear identity, have a shade and stick to it, no flitting about.

I see where you're coming from, but the established and clear identity is GREEN. Are you seriously saying that we have a consistent identity in the last few seasons, with white stripes, shorts, sashes and god knows what else diluting the already dark green each year?

All of those kits have met the same responses from non-Argyle supporting friends... 'is that even green?'... 'why is it so dark?'... 'is that the away shirt?'.

It makes sense to change up the shade for aesthetic reasons, and it makes sense for financial reasons. People are far more likely to buy a shirt that offers something different from the previous year, especially with the annual change.

What do you think of the St Etienne shirts changing shade? Have they got it all wrong? Those shirts look a hell of a lot better than ours, and a hell of a lot more green.
We agree on many things Biggs, this one we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

Designs have to change (stripes etc.). I wish they didn't, I would like entire consistency. But I have had to grudgingly concede that commercialism is key in this grubby modern world we now occupy, the club needs constant difference or we'd all make our shirts last years and not rotate them. You don't, but I do feel there should be a consistent thread (pun intended) across all the home shirt derivatives, and if designs must change then that must be our colours, green black and white.

Black is black, it can't change. Likewise white is white and always will be. Green provides an option to vary but in so doing you massively change the ensemble look of the three colours combined. With all the design differences each season if you fart about constantly with the green it's Argyleness is farted about too, the wider football world won't recognise it as intrinsically Plymouth Argyle without having to look closer for the badge or the sponsor.

What you might gain in aesthetics (debatable) you loose in consistency of identity.

Tell your friends that it *IS* green, it's dark because that is the club's chosen (and like it or lump it established) brand identifier, and no, it's not the away kit (then feel free to give them a comedy slap round the back of the head for asking stupid questions...I would :lol:

St Etienne have diluted their brand by diluting their colour, they will have to keep that for 5-10 years before it will become recognisably St Etienne again. Yes, they have got it wrong and no, i don't like it. That shade looks like the kind of colour mould goes on bread after it's turned from blue.

I have responded to your questions, not out of belief I can change your mind, any more than you might think you can change mine. As I say I have noticed that we agree on many things Argyle, but this is my area of particular pitchforkery - identity. And identity is all about consistency, not flittery.

Have a good game tonight :thumbup:
 

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Great fun debating with you as always :thumbup:, you make some very good points.

From my point of view, I see all the other fantastic green shirts out there, and I feel like banging my head against the wall that we seem completely unwilling to make the most of this brilliantly unique colour and that Green Army identity.

We’ll see what the club do in the future, I can’t help feel it’s time for SOME sort of refresh with the colour. Especially with DA himself saying it was too dark.

Let’s hope that’s not the case tonight, COYG.
 
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Would that be the comment he made before changing to the white away kit at home to Blackpool last season :whistle:
 
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Always interesting thread this one

Sure next seasons Kit has been decided and ordered already as everyone is on the ball at PAFC

Be interesting to see the designs for next season thou

COYGs
 

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Can't we just have 7 shades of green a little black and a smidge of white...stripes, solids, squares. That way everyone (no one) will be happy
 

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GreenArmy1984":2ss4qfxn said:
Quiz Time ......

How many times have Ginsters been on Argyle's Home & Away Shirts ?


Mmmm. tough one. I've got loads of pasty on my Argyle shirt over the years but never a Ginsters .. so . ..??? .. None? :think: