England and Argyle . Twins .....

[Ade the green]

Extremely frustrated that IF is our Head Coach
Our talented players must be pulling their collective hair out
Our final 8 opponents must be licking their lips knowing how to play against us
Planet Foster is a million miles away from what Planet Argyle was under our previous gaffer
If we achieve Championship status i doubt our talented players will want to stick around where they do not play to their strengths

And? Stoke city had one of the stingiest defences in the league before Schumacher took over but now they leak like a sieve and the goals by Stoke are few and far between.
If we are to go down under Foster, we were always as likely to go down under Schumacher.
8 games left. Is it too much to hope for some support.

 

[Tom Cobbley]

I was 6 years old, and not really zoned in at that age, but that was the famous qualifying group where Brian Clough referred to the Polish 'Keeper as a "Clown" ... England were massive favourites for that group ... Wales were very poor then, and Poland hadn't qualified for the World Cup since 1938, so weren't really fancied.

Anyway, you're asking questions to stuff that's easy to google, so just check it out; Southgate's figure's stack up, and he's brought back a level of respect and decency to our national game that was at a shockingly low level, due largely to poor appointments, before he took on the role ... whether he's anyone's cup of tea doesn't really cut an argument against him, he's done pretty well.

Norman Hunter got mugged on the halfway line by the touchline and Poland broke away, Shilton should have saved the shot but it went under him. England had enough chances to win by a country mile.

England today are playing by numbers and there is zero entertainment value. So take your pick, percentage football or more attacking football with associated risks. Percentage football might be tolerable if you are getting the results, Argyle are not.

 

[smudja]

England have had 19 Managers, Southgate comes 2nd in the win percentage over all games, he tends to experiment in friendlies, but has the most wins, and highest percentage, of any previous England manager, and has by far the best points per game ratio, in major qualifiers/tournaments of any England Manager; better even than Alf Ramsey. Statistically, Gareth Southgate is the best England Manager of all time; excluding friendly results, like yesterday.

We've qualified for every single European and World Cup that Southgate has been in charge and done well in all of them, finishing 4th (Kane missing a sitter at 1-0 in a 2-1 QF defeat after 2 late goals) and QF (missing out on extra time/pens against (No. 1 ranked) France when Kane missed a 2nd half pen) in the World Cup, and going down on pens in the final of his only Euro Cup so far.

What/who are you actually wanting to replace Southgate, and do a better job? ... who exactly have you got up your sleeve?

 Foster

 

[Hargyle]

Norman Hunter got mugged on the halfway line by the touchline and Poland broke away, Shilton should have saved the shot but it went under him. England had enough chances to win by a country mile.

England today are playing by numbers and there is zero entertainment value. So take your pick, percentage football or more attacking football with associated risks. Percentage football might be tolerable if you are getting the results, Argyle are not.

Thanks for the offer … I’ll take Southgate’s England and someone else’s, not Fozzie’s, Argyle

 

[Green 1886]

Thanks Green 1886 and Lancaster Green - You see ``Yawn` and `eye Roll` are just what youngsters / teenagers do - Well , if the cap fits !! Don`t know why you persist in driving your club down,. WHY ?

A touch sensitive about an emoji? Sort of thing a teenager would do.

I care about the club, have supported religiously for 35 years or so, don’t see how I’m driving the club down by questioning a complete u turn in our playing philosophy as well as behind the scenes preparation to fit in with “the England way”. Still, you carry on oblivious to it criticising anyone who doesn’t tow the party line

 

[unhinched]

Poland came third in the 74 World Cup ( and in 82) ....seriously underestimated by England at the time and still to this day judging by comments above .

 

[unhinched]

Southgate comes 2nd in the win percentage over all games, he tends to experiment in friendlies, but has the most wins, and highest percentage, of any previous England manager, and has by far the best points per game ratio, in major qualifiers/tournaments of any England Manager;

Can't compare it though really as countries like Yugoslavia and Russia etc were single nations before they got split in to about 15 each. Now qualifying is endless matches against North Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro and the like.

 

[Devizes Green]

Norman Hunter got mugged on the halfway line by the touchline and Poland broke away, Shilton should have saved the shot but it went under him. England had enough chances to win by a country mile.

England today are playing by numbers and there is zero entertainment value. So take your pick, percentage football or more attacking football with associated risks. Percentage football might be tolerable if you are getting the results, Argyle are not.

And I was there at Wembley all those years ago

 

[djg145]

Klopp could be the next England manager 😉

 

[keithobro]

Chalk and cheese.

Before going to Man Utd Louis Van Gaal had won the Eredivisie (4x), La Liga (2x), the Bundesliga, the Champions League + a long list of domestic trophies.

Gareth Southgate has won nothing and would be a bizzare appointment for arguably the biggest club in the world.

But they haven't had a decent manager since Ferguson, have they?

 

[keithobro]

Klopp could be the next England manager 😉

I wish!

 

[daront]

I wish Klopp was the next eng manager.

The current england tactics since southgate has been in charge has been boring, risk adversed, slow, no tempo football. The prob is we win the odd game or two and suddenly the press think we are world beaters.
The same with argyle at the mo, dull boring slow football and we are suffering. I hope IF changes things and moves away from the eng mentality as i cannot bear watching England style football.

 

[keithobro]

England have had 19 Managers, Southgate comes 2nd in the win percentage over all games, he tends to experiment in friendlies, but has the most wins, and highest percentage, of any previous England manager, and has by far the best points per game ratio, in major qualifiers/tournaments of any England Manager; better even than Alf Ramsey. Statistically, Gareth Southgate is the best England Manager of all time; excluding friendly results, like yesterday.

We've qualified for every single European and World Cup that Southgate has been in charge and done well in all of them, finishing 4th (Kane missing a sitter at 1-0 in a 2-1 QF defeat after 2 late goals) and QF (missing out on extra time/pens against (No. 1 ranked) France when Kane missed a 2nd half pen) in the World Cup, and going down on pens in the final of his only Euro Cup so far.

What/who are you actually wanting to replace Southgate, and do a better job? ... who exactly have you got up your sleeve?

IF possible, Klopp or Guardiola. It doesn't matter how often we qualify if we're going to fold every time we come up against a so-called superior team, as we keep doing time and time again. We go into those games in fear and Southgate does not seem able to instil confidence in his charges in those crucial matches.

 

[keithobro]

Poland came third in the 74 World Cup ( and in 82) ....seriously underestimated by England at the time and still to this day judging by comments above .

And didn't England also drop points against Wales in that qualifying tournament, when there were only countries in the group?

 

[Cobi Budge]

But they haven't had a decent manager since Ferguson, have they?

They’ve had some very good managers.

Jose Mourinho is one of the greatest of all time, Louis Van Gaal has had a brilliant career, whereas David Moyes was on a hiding to nothing after taking over from Sir Alex.

Man Utd have suffered from a lack of strategy and poor recruitment.