It depends how you're defining over achievement. In terms of club size, we aren't overachieving, we're probably about where we should be in that regard, but in terms of our current budget, we definitely are.
I think you are being a bit ambitious there, over optimistic by a long way. We have had our fun at the top, and now we must allow those teams with serious ambitions of promotion to take over. They may be below us at the moment, but they will have games in hand and should jump above us when things level out.Overachieving Clubs:
Leicester, Brentford, Blackpool, Norwich, Accrington, Morecambe, Wycombe and.....Argyle ?
Personally, I think we are under achieving.
As an Argyle fan, I remember many hard fought matches between us and the Clubs listed above, when we were all in the same division.
15 000 crowds, huge catchment area. A big local youth talent pool....
So, why do we suddenly tell ourselves, 'okay lads, the shows over, nice while it lasted, now back to mid table we go' ?
Some tactical rethinks, new player additions and we can soon be back to a top 2 position.
Oh ye of little faith!We have had our fun at the top, and now we must allow those teams with serious ambitions of promotion to take over..
Interesting. Do you put Charlton in that 'serious contender' category ?I think you are being a bit ambitious there, over optimistic by a long way. We have had our fun at the top, and now we must allow those teams with serious ambitions of promotion to take over. They may be below us at the moment, but they will have games in hand and should jump above us when things level out.
We have beaten the lesser teams in the league, but we have had trouble with the bigger, wealthier, and, dare I say it, more serious contenders for promotion.
We have improved immensely from last season, but we are nowhere near promotion candidates, although a chance of getting into the play-offs at the end of the season would put the icing on the cake and would give us something to get excited about at the end of the season.
We have a very different approach to transfers. For example, Hardie we got on the cheap, and many others. Our 'bigger' competitors choose to sign players who have made their mark and probably past there best. That requires a big wage bill.It depends how you're defining over achievement. In terms of club size, we aren't overachieving, we're probably about where we should be in that regard, but in terms of our current budget, we definitely are.
Interesting. So we ARE underachieving“Fanbanter “ website lists all English clubs in terms of average historical attendances.
Argyle are listed as 41st.
Currently we sit in 48th place in the league pyramid....
We are probably below 41st over the last decade or two, although may be close this season.“Fanbanter “ website lists all English clubs in terms of average historical attendances.
Argyle are listed as 41st.
Currently we sit in 48th place in the league pyramid....
Yes, historically we've been lower championship, upper L1, probably along the lines of what Wycombe and Rotherham are achieving now.Regardless of facts and figures I always felt lower D2 upper D3 (in old money) was our natural level and I think that's still the case. I therefore think becoming an established second tier team would be a great achievement.
Argyle, with their 15 000 crowds, huge catchment area. A big local youth talent pool..., we should be doing much better.
So, why do we suddenly tell ourselves, 'okay lads, the shows over, nice while it lasted, now back to mid table we go' ?
I believe we are one of the top 20 most populous cities in England and should at least be in the second tier of English football.