Vardys been totally anonymous

[Nobby]

Sterling looks cowed by the occasion I can't believe he gets in ahead of others available. This could have been a big chance to show the World how good he is but I think it's too much for him. Would rather Rashford started against Sweden.

Sterling was very good the other night. He’s the only one who runs in behind and his movement was exceptional and caused Colombia a lot of trouble. Our issue is playing him, Alli and Lingard means we have nobody playing between the lines. I would personally start Loftus Cheek in Alli’s place and allow Lingard to play higher up. I know Alli has been part injured, but he has been very poor and it’s been a long while since he delivered for England.

'Exceptional'? Really? Where was the end product? Kept running down blind alleys.

I never said the end product was exceptional. His movement dragged defenders out of position, created space for team mates, enable Kane to drop deeper when he needed too. Personally I think he’s important to the balance of the team. The lack of balance comes in midfield for me.

 

[r4h4al]

Sterling has achieved absolutely nothing as well apart from consistently lose the ball. I’ve defended him a lot against all the rubbish in the media, but I can’t defend him from a footballing perspective anymore. His work rate is excellent, but his end product is non existent and he’s a liability due to constantly losing possession cheaply.

Rashford is by far the best option to partner Kane.

I'd agree with you but Sterling has scored 20 goals which you cannot ignore.

Sterling is the frustrating one, as i personally think his movement and the positions he takes up are excellent. Sadly his first touch is like a Pox doctor's needle.
However i would stick with him, as the one thing all three possible opponents in QF/SF lack is pace at the back and something has to fall for him sooner or later. Cant have Alli i'm afraid, he's one of those players that when he's hot and the goals are flowing he looks a world beater, but when the goals dry up, there is actually very little else to his game. He doesn't look fit to start for me.

:iagree:
LC has been poor too, but he is the least poor option. I'd continue with Sterling too. A player of his class surely will show it eventually by the law of odds if for no other reason.

I know Alli has been part injured, but he has been very poor and it’s been a long while since he delivered for England.

Has he ever? :eh:

 

[with menace]

Completely disagree with OP. Vardy was about the only player that put in a decent performance against Belgium IMO. He made a lot of runs that weren't spotted or picked up, he regained possession a number of times by quickly nipping it off an opponents toe and played that excellent ball thru' to Rashford who missed abysmally. I distinctly remember saying to my lad watching the game that he was the only one who looked like he could be arsed. I also thought he looked bright when he came on in the Colombia game - at least in the second period of extra time (first period we looked completely shell shocked) - he got in for one of our few clear cut chances although admittedly shot straight at the 'keeper (and was marginally offside anyway). As for the penalty shirking - we now know he'd picked up a groin strain.

Oh ok, I take it all back, vardys set the world alight and has surely silenced his critics. Real Madrid and juventus are currently battling it out to land the £200m rated goal machine :funny:

Very good - but did you know there is such a thing as a 'grey area' somewhere between the twenty-five year-old Maradonna and Peter Swann?...... I reckon Vardy is somewhere in it :wink:

Then again...
https://talksport.com/football/376796/l ... mie-vardy/

Peter Swann is a 'grey area' all by himself.
Re vardy-athletico rumour I think he'd suit their style of play to a T

 

[with menace]

Sterling has achieved absolutely nothing as well apart from consistently lose the ball. I’ve defended him a lot against all the rubbish in the media, but I can’t defend him from a footballing perspective anymore. His work rate is excellent, but his end product is non existent and he’s a liability due to constantly losing possession cheaply.

Rashford is by far the best option to partner Kane.

I'd agree with you but Sterling has scored 20 goals which you cannot ignore.

Sterling is the frustrating one, as i personally think his movement and the positions he takes up are excellent. Sadly his first touch is like a Pox doctor's needle.
However i would stick with him, as the one thing all three possible opponents in QF/SF lack is pace at the back and something has to fall for him sooner or later. Cant have Alli i'm afraid, he's one of those players that when he's hot and the goals are flowing he looks a world beater, but when the goals dry up, there is actually very little else to his game. He doesn't look fit to start for me.

:iagree:
LC has been poor too, but he is the least poor option. I'd continue with Sterling too. A player of his class surely will show it eventually by the law of odds if for no other reason.

I know Alli has been part injured, but he has been very poor and it’s been a long while since he delivered for England.

Has he ever? :eh:

Pretty much on a par with Stirling for England. Thing is if Either get much game time it wouldn't rock my world if either or even both score in however many games we have left.

 

[monkeywrench]

I think Stirling fits perfectly into Southgates system. His movement off the ball and intelligent running is essential for the way we play. Pulls defenders all over the place and creates space for the deep runners such as Lingard and Alli.

His finishing is generally poor I agree, but on balance I'd play him.

 

[Joe Totale]

IMO Sterling is doing the classic thing of trying too hard at times because he's so desperate to get a goal. Maybe some of the stuff in the media has got to him a bit.
There's been several points where he should have just done the simple thing but he tries something more elaborate instead which doesn't come off and he loses possession in a good position.
I'd persevere with him as he gets into great positions and his pace will always be a threat. The only changes I'd make are RLC for Alli and maybe Rose for Young.

 

[Frank Butcher]

For me Sterling and to a lesser extent Lingard both make silly errors when they have created fantastic opportunities for themselves. The runs they make are rapid and intelligent but when they are picked out they often fail to deliver, mainly due to a poor first touch or finish as has been mentioned above. I suspect sometimes the pace of what they are doing is causing those mistakes to happen. I find Sterling in particular a frustration - he could be so good if he just brought a bit of composure to his game when receiving the ball.

Re: Vardy, this is a very difficult tournament for a player like him. So many strikers who are best with the ball in front of them struggle, because the space in behind just isn't there.

 

[Balham Green]

For me Sterling and to a lesser extent Lingard both make silly errors when they have created fantastic opportunities for themselves. The runs they make are rapid and intelligent but when they are picked out they often fail to deliver, mainly due to a poor first touch or finish as has been mentioned above. I suspect sometimes the pace of what they are doing is causing those mistakes to happen. I find Sterling in particular a frustration - he could be so good if he just brought a bit of composure to his game when receiving the ball.

Re: Vardy, this is a very difficult tournament for a player like him. So many strikers who are best with the ball in front of them struggle, because the space in behind just isn't there.

Agreed. As I said elsewhere just don't see Vardy as an international player.

 

[Ave IT]

For me Sterling and to a lesser extent Lingard both make silly errors when they have created fantastic opportunities for themselves. The runs they make are rapid and intelligent but when they are picked out they often fail to deliver, mainly due to a poor first touch or finish as has been mentioned above. I suspect sometimes the pace of what they are doing is causing those mistakes to happen. I find Sterling in particular a frustration - he could be so good if he just brought a bit of composure to his game when receiving the ball.

Re: Vardy, this is a very difficult tournament for a player like him. So many strikers who are best with the ball in front of them struggle, because the space in behind just isn't there.

Agreed. As I said elsewhere just don't see Vardy as an international player.

No – Vardy is what I’d call a ‘specialist’ player. Brilliant if used right and in the right circumstances. He’s fast, nasty, and finishes well so is at his best on the break or when teams are shuffling back after a prolonged period of pressure & possession. When he’s not so effective is when trying to unlock a packed defence – so ironically I reckon he’d be better suited against quality opposition when we can counter – or brought on when we’ve taken the lead and the opposition now have to attack and leave space (which was Southgate’s idea against Columbia when we were leading and he came on late). I wasn’t surprised to hear Athletico were interested in him – their style would be a perfect fit for him – deep rock-solid defence then lightening-quick counter attacks (although probably won’t happen now Griezman is staying).

 

[Knibbsworth]

Vardy has been feeding on scraps and there have been no long balls behind the back four for him to chase. Very few touches of the ball in fact.

Against Colombia, Kane dropped deep to the point he was playing in his own half in midfield, Vardy played up front alone. He lacks Kane's clever movement and ability to attract fouls, but so does every other forward in the country.

Vardy was hardly missing chances left right and centre, the dynamics of the team had shifted by the time he had come on.

I personally would like to see Vardy or Rashford start alongside Kane, Sterling has offered absolutely nothing all tournament to add to last tournament. Talk about not suiting international football, you have to offer more than getting the ball and dribbling into a tackle repeatedly. Rashford missed chances v Belgium but at least he was making those chances happen?

 

[with menace]

Vardy has been feeding on scraps and there have been no long balls behind the back four for him to chase. Very few touches of the ball in fact.

Against Colombia, Kane dropped deep to the point he was playing in his own half in midfield, Vardy played up front alone. He lacks Kane's clever movement and ability to attract fouls, but so does every other forward in the country.

Vardy was hardly missing chances left right and centre, the dynamics of the team had shifted by the time he had come on.

I personally would like to see Vardy or Rashford start alongside Kane, Sterling has offered absolutely nothing all tournament to add to last tournament. Talk about not suiting international football, you have to offer more than getting the ball and dribbling into a tackle repeatedly. Rashford missed chances v Belgium but at least he was making those chances happen?

It's tough at the top. You've got to take those chances or you're just another Carlton palmer.
He can certainly put himself in decisive positions but you've got to be ruthlessly clinical to be a winner and that's his ( rashfords ) major failure. I do rate the lad but I feel that if he was truly special ' mbape ' it'd manifested itself right here and now but it hasn't.

 

[Pogleswoody]

Completely disagree with OP. Vardy was about the only player that put in a decent performance against Belgium IMO. He made a lot of runs that weren't spotted or picked up, he regained possession a number of times by quickly nipping it off an opponents toe and played that excellent ball thru' to Rashford who missed abysmally. I distinctly remember saying to my lad watching the game that he was the only one who looked like he could be arsed. I also thought he looked bright when he came on in the Colombia game - at least in the second period of extra time (first period we looked completely shell shocked) - he got in for one of our few clear cut chances although admittedly shot straight at the 'keeper (and was marginally offside anyway). As for the penalty shirking - we now know he'd picked up a groin strain.

Oh ok, I take it all back, vardys set the world alight and has surely silenced his critics. Real Madrid and juventus are currently battling it out to land the £200m rated goal machine :funny:

Very good - but did you know there is such a thing as a 'grey area' somewhere between the twenty-five year-old Maradonna and Peter Swann?...... I reckon Vardy is somewhere in it :wink:

Then again...
https://talksport.com/football/376796/l ... mie-vardy/

Peter Swann is a 'grey area' all by himself.
Re vardy-athletico rumour I think he'd suit their style of play to a T

You're not a swan you're an ugly phuckling!! :furious: