Sin bins to be put on trial

[Argyleloyal]

Also on trial will be only captains can approach a referee

Sin bins to be trialled in professional football as part of new IFAB law proposals

At its Annual Business Meeting (ABM) held in London on Tuesday, IFAB focused on measures to improve participant behaviour in football and increase respect for match officials; it was agreed sin bins for dissent and specific tactical offences should be trialled at higher levels

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[Lundan Cabbie]

My fear of sin bins is the likelihood of teams just parking the bus and running down the clock until they are back to full strength.

 

[Tavy Tony]

Sin bins, not before time

 

[mutley marvel]

Will it stop players chasing the referee or surrounding the referee

 

[Argyleloyal]

IFAB is expected to give the go-ahead to a trial of sin-bins for dissent and tactical fouls from next season, with the FA Cup potentially being the biggest competition to use them.

 

[Gloucester Green]

The higher levels don't have that many instances of dissent as they ignore those offences in full public view on TV ... they may have a couple high profile ones like Darwin Nunez at weekend but largely go unpunished.

Grassroots sin bins have been in place for a few years and players still appear shocked when they are used.

Can't see this working in FA Cup it'll just be paying lip service.

 

[mutley marvel]

Will managers be included who are persistently in the 4th officials ear & where would the sin bin be placed - who would be ensuring the players stay in the sin bin for the allocated time

 

[Green Flash]

I have always felt that if a "professional foul" is worthwhile then the rules of the game are wrong. It should not be possible to benefit by cheating so certain current yellow card offences (eg a foul to prevent a break) are not currently heavily enough punished. I would also be in favour of automatic penalty goals if the foul prevents a near certain goal (eg when a goal keeper pulls down a player that has got around them)

 

[Green Flash]

Indeed thinking about it further, while we are at it I would like to see less sending offs as they tend to ruin the game, but instead in certain circumstances a penalty awarded no matter where the foul took place - especially for those "last man" offences.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Will managers be included who are persistently in the 4th officials ear & where would the sin bin be placed - who would be ensuring the players stay in the sin bin for the allocated time

One of the complaints from grassroots referees is that the timekeeping of the sin bin absence is another task added to their workload especially when it is not just a straight 10 minutes but has to be extended to take into account stoppages during that time. Obviously where there is a fourth official this can be delegated but it is no surprise that at grasssroot level, more players get sin binned with 10 or fewer minutes remaining which means the referee doesn’t have to manage the sin bin time.

 

[mervyn]

Problem with accumulated yellows is that they can be manipulated. Several years ago at a Charlton v MK Dons game, the Charlton fans around me explained that a particular player was going to take a yellow in the 2nd half, as the game he would then miss was against a non-league side in the FA cup. Sure enough the player deliberately stood in front of an opposing player to prevent him taking a throw in, and on the third attempt he duly received his yellow. What surprised me was the ref and linesman laughing, as everyone knew what was going on.

 

[Brussels Bureaucrat]

My fear of sin bins is the likelihood of teams just parking the bus and running down the clock until they are back to full strength.

My thoughts as well - surely sin bins can only be used when the match clock is stopped every time the ball goes dead, as in rugby for instance.

 

[swedengreen]

I regularly watch bandy here in Sweden - which is more or less field hockey on ice. Most of the rules resemble football. It has had sin bins forever, and they don't stop the clock if the ball goes dead.

You can't really time-waste while someone's in the sin bin, because you risk joining them there and going down to 9...

Teams do of course become more defensive when they're a man down, but it's difficult to change from attacking free flowing play to completely parking the bus and then back again 10 minutes later, so I don't think it's that big a problem.

I think it helps cut down on persistent or dangerous fouling, but doesn't really eliminate the cynical fouls. Ultimately, if it's worth taking a yellow for the team, it's probably worth taking a sin-bin for the team.

Another interesting aspect is that you can immediately leave the sin bin if the opposition score, to avoid double punishment.

 

[Green Painter]

Getting opposition players sin binned by simulation and other dark arts will be commonplace and no doubt used as a tactic to gain an advantage. Var might be able to police it at prem level but overall I think it will just encourage more cheating and be impossible to officiate.

 

[Lousy Pint]

Just NO