Seven restaurants at Home Park after redevelopment complete

[nick_PASTIE]

That’s a lot of restaurants in one space, out of town. I would imagine rents will be cheap initially to get brands interested- Pizza Express will be one of them I would guess.

 

[Green Flash]

That’s a lot of restaurants in one space, out of town. I would imagine rents will be cheap initially to get brands interested- Pizza Express will be one of them I would guess.

My guess is that it will be restaurants that incorporate a delivery/take out service given it is in a densely residential area. Without the draw of a cinema or even shops, it is hard to envisage people flocking to central park for dinner on a rainy week night. Yes they will be busy once a fortnight in the football season but that cannot sustain a business.

 

[Biggs]

That’s a lot of restaurants in one space, out of town. I would imagine rents will be cheap initially to get brands interested- Pizza Express will be one of them I would guess.

My guess is that it will be restaurants that incorporate a delivery/take out service given it is in a densely residential area. Without the draw of a cinema or even shops, it is hard to envisage people flocking to central park for dinner on a rainy week night. Yes they will be busy once a fortnight in the football season but that cannot sustain a business.

Remember all the office space, hotel and gymgoers, plus all the employees of those businesses plus Argyle. And I would have thought with a combination of hotel + conferencing + office space, there will be a hell of a lot of business lunching.

There will be a lot of permanent people based in that area as well as the visitors/football fans etc.

 

[supergreen6]

Given the new cinema complex, the number of empty units in the city centre, empty units in the RWY, I cannot think it is good planning to allow another set of chain restaurants to open up in Central Park - surely it is better to make sure existing areas for evening entertainment are thriving rather than create new ones.

The commercial developments, including the hotel, are going to do a lot of damage to the city centre and the character of the park in my opinion. It was a weak decision by the Council. There are more appropriate places for this type of development. However, allowing the development was easiest thing for the Council to do as it would be wrongly percieved in the media as holding back Argyle and the city.

The Council had little choice to be honest and it would have been far worse than just holding Argyle back. Brentie was the only realistic option to bail Argyle out then so it was a case of accept his proposal or be seen as the bad boys who confined PAFC to the history books. The only positive thing to say is we still at least have a club to support.

 

[Biggs]

The only positive thing to say is we still at least have a club to support.

The ONLY positive thing to say?

Really?

I must admit though, all this stuff DOES change that area of Central Park. From a potholed mess, to a sports and leisure destination people actually want to visit.

The park itself is barely touched.

 

[Green Flash]

That’s a lot of restaurants in one space, out of town. I would imagine rents will be cheap initially to get brands interested- Pizza Express will be one of them I would guess.

My guess is that it will be restaurants that incorporate a delivery/take out service given it is in a densely residential area. Without the draw of a cinema or even shops, it is hard to envisage people flocking to central park for dinner on a rainy week night. Yes they will be busy once a fortnight in the football season but that cannot sustain a business.

Remember all the office space, hotel and gymgoers, plus all the employees of those businesses plus Argyle. And I would have thought with a combination of hotel + conferencing + office space, there will be a hell of a lot of business lunching.

There will be a lot of permanent people based in that area as well as the visitors/football fans etc.

A small hotel, a gym and a small office block cannot sustain 7 restaurants. I just don't see it and business lunches don't tend to take place in the Nandos type joints that are likely to occupy.

 

[Mork]

The only positive thing to say is we still at least have a club to support.

The ONLY positive thing to say?

Really?

I must admit though, all this stuff DOES change that area of Central Park. From a potholed mess, to a sports and leisure destination people actually want to visit.

The park itself is barely touched.

And then go for a bite to eat in one of seven restaurants?? Why would any restaurant be interested in that amount of competition & where’s the foot fall? The previous scheme didn’t go ahead because of lack of interest. What’s changed?

 

[Quizmike]

There are a lot of these kind of developments in the South East and they are surprisingly popular. The amount of choice is seen as a selling point

 

[Mork]

There are a lot of these kind of developments in the South East and they are surprisingly popular. The amount of choice is seen as a selling point

“a selling point “ to who???

 

[PL2 3DQ]

There are a lot of these kind of developments in the South East and they are surprisingly popular. The amount of choice is seen as a selling point

Exactly! And also elsewhere around the country, the stadium at Northampton, as an example, is surrounded by restaurants.
It's not until you see other towns and cities that you realise how much Plymouth is missing out with the lack of choice for restaurants.
For instance we have no Brewers Fayre or Hungry Horse and yet these are everywhere around the country.
We also have just one Harvester and Toby restaurants where some other cities have at least two.
These national chains are very popular.

 

[Mork]

There are a lot of these kind of developments in the South East and they are surprisingly popular. The amount of choice is seen as a selling point

Exactly! And also elsewhere around the country, the stadium at Northampton, as an example, is surrounded by restaurants.
It's not until you see other towns and cities that you realise how much Plymouth is missing out with the lack of choice for restaurants.
For instance we have no Brewers Fayre or Hungry Horse and yet these are everywhere around the country.
We also have just one Harvester and Toby restaurants where some other cities have at least two.
These national chains are very popular.

Usually these developments are accompanied with shops. If you were right, then why was there a lack of interested companies in the previous scheme?

 

[Pettgreen]

Everyone seems to think it'll be the usual suspects opening the restaurant space. It's quite possible that the tenders could go to smaller artisan operations. I would like to think so. 3 branded and 4 small businesses. Branded high street chains are really suffering at the moment as the industry is bloated. Simply put there are waay to many coffee shops and restaurants. These out of city centre projects are to the detriment of town centre but in my view the landlords of the town centre spaces only have themselves to blame.
Sorry i'm rambling here on a subject i'm very passionate about.
I do not see an issue with the number of tenders being put up but I would like to see smaller outfits get a chance to be part of a project like this.

 

[Pettgreen]

There are a lot of these kind of developments in the South East and they are surprisingly popular. The amount of choice is seen as a selling point

Exactly! And also elsewhere around the country, the stadium at Northampton, as an example, is surrounded by restaurants.
It's not until you see other towns and cities that you realise how much Plymouth is missing out with the lack of choice for restaurants.
For instance we have no Brewers Fayre or Hungry Horse and yet these are everywhere around the country.
We also have just one Harvester and Toby restaurants where some other cities have at least two.
These national chains are very popular.

Trust me Plymouth is missing nothing by not having those chains in town!!!!

 

[ProfGreen]

All the players won't even have to leave Central Park to get their daily Nando's!

 

[The Grumpy Loyal]

There are a lot of these kind of developments in the South East and they are surprisingly popular. The amount of choice is seen as a selling point

Exactly! And also elsewhere around the country, the stadium at Northampton, as an example, is surrounded by restaurants.
It's not until you see other towns and cities that you realise how much Plymouth is missing out with the lack of choice for restaurants.
For instance we have no Brewers Fayre or Hungry Horse and yet these are everywhere around the country.
We also have just one Harvester and Toby restaurants where some other cities have at least two.
These national chains are very popular.

The latter three you mention are pub chains that do food. They won't fit the letting criteria of these units. Brewers Fayre's are usually attached to a Premier Inn, so that is a possible.