Maybe they were fed up with the constant references to Bury on Sea which you still get everywhere. It was funny once but starting to wear now. No excuse though.
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Jeeezus..... I feel quite ashamed to hear that. My brain tells me that every club everywhere has to suffer its own d1ckheads...... but it still hurts to hear such kn0bs who masquerade as Argyle fans behave like that. To think they even made the effort to approach you :facepalm: .... The thing is there is a small hardcore who travel who think of themselves as 'uber' fans and despise mere mortals with lives and brain cells. I guarantee 99.99% of real Argyle fans have have nothing but sympathy for Bury and respect for fans like you.
So there were 1000 Argyle there and it appears 2(or 3) pond life encountered? Hardly representative. Dont worry about it though it must have been annoying. Of course you are welcome.
Hi, you seem to be asking for a âwhy is this happening?â. I was there today and saw it. I donât think that itâs your fault, or anything that you are doing. You are very welcome to come and join us as far as 99% of us are concerned. Our hearts go out to you, as we went through the trauma of nearly having it done to us and it was horrible enough even though we were pulled back from the brink. I may be wrong, but I think that the problem is with RL. Every manager we have previously had in my time following Argyle has been Our Manager, and some of us demand 100% loyalty from our manager. What some people may be feeling is that Our Manager loves another team more than us. He played in your fund raiser match which some may see as a distraction from the commitment to us. The timing for today was not good. RL gave an interview saying that the Exeter match was âJust another matchâ and then went and lost it 4-0, the biggest defeat against a team we really donât like since the 1920s. Some fans may think that is because he does not get us, he is not yet Our Manager; and the reason is, he is still your manger. Therefore, the quicker that you disappear off the scene the better (for that 1% who think that way). Think of it that you start a new relationship with a new partner, and he/she disappears off to see his/her ex-wife/husband and the step-kids every so often. Not a perfect analogy, but along those lines. Football is tribal and some fans have one club and one club only. Anyone coming in to that club must, for them, have the same commitment; and so far it appears that RL does not. Hence, some anti-feeling towards you. For what itâs worth, thatâs my take on what you experienced today. Sorry that it happened.desperateshaker":ewj5ud0f said:
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What a load of nonsense. No point tyring to explain that behaviour.
What is wrong with some people. I bet they didnt behave like that when we were in the poo financially and held a Fans United day at HP, which was supported by fans from all over the country.
Short of it being a Bristol or Devon club shirt, I would welcome support from any other club, let alone fans of a club who have just folded and who we have taken several players from.
Short of it being a Bristol or Devon club shirt, I would welcome support from any other club, let alone fans of a club who have just folded and who we have taken several players from.
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Cheers for the thoughts guys,
Again I'm not for one moment pointing out your 1%, jesus we had more than our fair share of plant pots at Gigg, and like many have said it sadly comes with the territory in Football.
We just left a little bemused and wondering why, after such a good welcome the last time, since we had gone has the love died
I was interested to hear the views of some disgruntled fans, not for an apology far from it, mainly in hope that our plight hadnt already been forgotten.
The comments that it's sad and pathetic to travel the country to watch ex players was just idiotic, and I feel he realised as soon as he said it,
No offense but Im sure you all know, the last place we want to be is at BWFC in the away end which is full and bouncing yet its not with Bury, it's truly torturous, we spend most Saturdays now in the local pub next to Gigg trying to help local business stay afloat due to the loss of trade, we sit and watch re-runs of the old games.
We have lost our passion for other games, we've chosen to go to one or two Plymouth games if they are close by because of what those players did for us whilst not being paid, plus we have friendships that go back with your backroom staff since I was 7 years old. We go and watch the match to spend time lost with our family doing what we have done for 30+ years, but once that whistle blows its the start of 90mins of jelousy and sat thinking why!?
I completely understand some views though, although doesn't excuse their behaviour, I get it to an extent with "Bury tag"
You want your players and manager to be banging your drum not somebody else's, I totally get that,, but I think Lowes allegence to us, maybe a way of highlighting to his new club of what a job he did, don't forget it was his first job and only has that on his CV to show for, maybe if we had such a bond he is highlighting that with a hope of showing you guys what he has done and what you can achieve together, given time?
I wouldn't worry about the loyalty as Lowe is a winner and although maybe your not where you wan tto be in the table, but looking at your squad and what we have seen in small doses, I believe you'll get promotion this season.
Again I'm not for one moment pointing out your 1%, jesus we had more than our fair share of plant pots at Gigg, and like many have said it sadly comes with the territory in Football.
We just left a little bemused and wondering why, after such a good welcome the last time, since we had gone has the love died
I was interested to hear the views of some disgruntled fans, not for an apology far from it, mainly in hope that our plight hadnt already been forgotten.
The comments that it's sad and pathetic to travel the country to watch ex players was just idiotic, and I feel he realised as soon as he said it,
No offense but Im sure you all know, the last place we want to be is at BWFC in the away end which is full and bouncing yet its not with Bury, it's truly torturous, we spend most Saturdays now in the local pub next to Gigg trying to help local business stay afloat due to the loss of trade, we sit and watch re-runs of the old games.
We have lost our passion for other games, we've chosen to go to one or two Plymouth games if they are close by because of what those players did for us whilst not being paid, plus we have friendships that go back with your backroom staff since I was 7 years old. We go and watch the match to spend time lost with our family doing what we have done for 30+ years, but once that whistle blows its the start of 90mins of jelousy and sat thinking why!?
I completely understand some views though, although doesn't excuse their behaviour, I get it to an extent with "Bury tag"
You want your players and manager to be banging your drum not somebody else's, I totally get that,, but I think Lowes allegence to us, maybe a way of highlighting to his new club of what a job he did, don't forget it was his first job and only has that on his CV to show for, maybe if we had such a bond he is highlighting that with a hope of showing you guys what he has done and what you can achieve together, given time?
I wouldn't worry about the loyalty as Lowe is a winner and although maybe your not where you wan tto be in the table, but looking at your squad and what we have seen in small doses, I believe you'll get promotion this season.
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You are welcome at any time, I can`t imagine the feelings that must come from having the club you have loved and supported all your life no longer being there. We came so, so close but nearly can`t prepare for it actually happening. I hope that next year you will have a team in some level of the pyramid.
For me, Bury fans are more than welcome to join the Green Army at any of our games.
I spoke with you at half time yesterday and hope that sentiment was obvious.
We appreciate loyalty to our club and delight in former players acknowledging the fans, as Remi Matthews did yesterday , so it does seem hypocritical and unreasonable expect our Bury contingent not to show their affiliation to their former club.
You mentioned that Macclesfield is the next game you had pencilled in to attend; I sincerely hope yesterdayâs encounters with the dregs of our support hasnât put you off from joining the vast majority who are happy to see you at our games.
I spoke with you at half time yesterday and hope that sentiment was obvious.
We appreciate loyalty to our club and delight in former players acknowledging the fans, as Remi Matthews did yesterday , so it does seem hypocritical and unreasonable expect our Bury contingent not to show their affiliation to their former club.
You mentioned that Macclesfield is the next game you had pencilled in to attend; I sincerely hope yesterdayâs encounters with the dregs of our support hasnât put you off from joining the vast majority who are happy to see you at our games.
You must have been wearing your Bury colours,but would have though Argyle fans would be coming up to you and offer their sincere sadness at your plight ,rather than abusing you.
We really do have some bells amongst us.
Seen it first hand plenty of times,wish they go support ,if that's the word someone else.
We really do have some bells amongst us.
Seen it first hand plenty of times,wish they go support ,if that's the word someone else.
I was put off going to away matches circa 2007/08. I lived in Liverpool at the time and travelled to the localish games at the time (PNE, Blackpool, Burnley, West Brom, Wolves, Birmingham, Derby, Forest, Sheff Wed, Stoke) the standard of "fan" at the time was at best knuckledragging. it was almost as though if you weren't part of their little clique you had to prove your Argyleness. so aside from the odd derby it's been Home matches only for me since.
At the Port Vale away game I sat next to Ryan Lowe's wife and son. I felt really embarrassed by the large number of morons in front of us. The young lad had to move to be able to see because of the attention seeking prats who moved in front of us (and kept looking around to see if they were being noticed). There were also some players' family behind us and I just felt that everyone was a bit bemused by the sheer idiocy of a significant proportion of the away following. Really embarrassing.
I'd like to reassure the OP that this element is a minority but sadly it's a significant, vocal minority that appears to be growing in number.
I'd like to reassure the OP that this element is a minority but sadly it's a significant, vocal minority that appears to be growing in number.
