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5 games to go (previous seasons)

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I was thinking this the other day. Moreover, i was concerned that I can't think of many instances where we've "flirted with" relegation, without actually being relegated. I can remember one season in the Championship (did Norwich go down on the last day instead?) and the two times where we nearly dropped out of the football league, but every other time, we've dropped.
I've been thinking the same. I know in 1959-60 we went to the brink. From October onwards we were never out of the bottom 5 and in a 22 team division, spending at least 10 weeks of the season in 20th place. Without spending a lot of money (for those days) on 3 First Division players and a change of manager with 8 to go we would have sunk without trace. (And to replace the sacked manager we chose joint managers already at the club and won 6 out of 8)
 

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I remember that game - it wasn't a relegation decider, though. Pretty sure we went 4-0 up really early on, like after 20 minutes or something, and then just sauntering through the second-half.

That lanky striker Paul Robinson scored a couple but I don't recall him doing anything else for us after that.
I remember the two goals Robinson scored against Millwall, one was a thumping long range strike at the BPE. He had to retire at 21 through injury having played briefly with Hereford after leaving us. I know a fellow here in Spain and Paul used to frequent his house a lot as a boy as he was best mates with his son. He told me had a nice business going well for him but I can't remember what sort of business it was now.
 
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Twiddy the scorer as I recall it.

Blackburn Rovers needed a win to be certain of the playoffs, but ended up not even needing the win as results turned out. And then won the playoffs.

Oxford United staying up at our expense, and their game finished even later than ours!
 

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It was 1963/64 season, I was also at the game. If we had lost, we would have been relegated by a point.

I can remember it being announced over the tannoy soon after full time that we had stayed up.

It was quite a good point in the end because Rotherham finished quite high up the table that season.
Yes, of course, I should have remembered that. It was goal average in those days. I went to my first away match that season, Boxing Day at Southampton. And, against all odds we won. But the table still made poor reading with us 2 points adrift and we had played FOUR more games that the team above us and three more than the team third bottom.

Going into our final game the table looked like this. In their 41st game Argyle had drawn at Leeds who were already champions. That was the 19th game of a run that had seen only 3 defeats, all of them away.


19 Swansea Town 40 12 7 21 59 70 31 Goal average 0.84
20 Plymouth Argyle 41 8 15 18 45 67 31 Goal average 0.67
21 Grimsby Town 41 9 1 19 45 73 31 Goal average 0.62
22 Scunthorpe Utd 41 10 10 21 50 79 30 Goal average 0.63


On the final day Scunthorpe lost 3-2 at mid-table Huddersfield, Swansea drew 3-3 home to Man City (who were 5th), Grimsby drew 2-2 with Sunderland (who were 2nd) and Argyle drew 0-0 at home to 7th place Rotherham.

19 Swansea Town 42 12 9 21 63 74 33 (0.85)
20 Plymouth Argyle 42 8 16 18 45 67 32 (0.67)
21 Grimsby Town 42 9 14 19 47 75 32 (0.63)
22 Scunthorpe Utd 42 10 10 22 52 82 30 (0.63)

Goal average was calculated by dividing the goals for by the goals against. So Argyle had survived by 0.04 of a goal. It was the most remarkable of escapes. Thank you for the reminder demportdave
 
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Missing out on promotion…….. the “great implosion” of 1962:

1961/2 was my first season supporting Argyle.

With 5/6 games to go we were 3rd in the old second division and in touching distance of promotion to the top flight.

We proceeded to lose 5 games ….. eventually finishing 5th.

The last home game of the season was a 2-1 defeat against Liverpool, who went up as champions ….. they did okay thereafter!

A disappointing end to Argyle’s most successful season ever in terms of final league position (with the exception of 1952…I think!).

That season‘s anti-climax “inoculated” me against the ups and downs of the subsequent 60 plus years.
 

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Missing out on promotion…….. the “great implosion” of 1962:

1961/2 was my first season supporting Argyle.

With 5/6 games to go we were 3rd in the old second division and in touching distance of promotion to the top flight.

We proceeded to lose 5 games ….. eventually finishing 5th.

The last home game of the season was a 2-1 defeat against Liverpool, who went up as champions ….. they did okay thereafter!

A disappointing end to Argyle’s most successful season ever in terms of final league position (with the exception of 1952…I think!).

That season‘s anti-climax “inoculated” me against the ups and downs of the subsequent 60 plus years.
The Liverpool home defeat was 3-2. We lost 2-1 up there. Although we finished 5th that season, we have had 2 x 4th places in tier2 - 1931-32 and 1952-53. We had also finished 5th in 1936-37.

Quite remarkably, after that promotion Liverpool has never finished lower than 8th in the top tier. Argyle meanwhile .............
 

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100% 6.0. I don't forget 6.0 wins!
Yes 6-0. Big Mal had taken over from Lennie Lawrence and brought about a mini revival. I think we secured our place in the previous game but Bradford were the big losers as they were relegated and could have stayed up if the first game had ended in their favour rather than been abandoned.
 
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I remember us losing at home to Newport 1-4 (I think), with goals against us by Tynan and Aldridge. Argyle then had the opportunity to sign both, but only went for Tynan. I think our history would have been much changed for the better, if Argyle had the bottle to have signed both!
 
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Yes, of course, I should have remembered that. It was goal average in those days. I went to my first away match that season, Boxing Day at Southampton. And, against all odds we won. But the table still made poor reading with us 2 points adrift and we had played FOUR more games that the team above us and three more than the team third bottom.

Going into our final game the table looked like this. In their 41st game Argyle had drawn at Leeds who were already champions. That was the 19th game of a run that had seen only 3 defeats, all of them away.


19 Swansea Town 40 12 7 21 59 70 31 Goal average 0.84
20 Plymouth Argyle 41 8 15 18 45 67 31 Goal average 0.67
21 Grimsby Town 41 9 1 19 45 73 31 Goal average 0.62
22 Scunthorpe Utd 41 10 10 21 50 79 30 Goal average 0.63


On the final day Scunthorpe lost 3-2 at mid-table Huddersfield, Swansea drew 3-3 home to Man City (who were 5th), Grimsby drew 2-2 with Sunderland (who were 2nd) and Argyle drew 0-0 at home to 7th place Rotherham.

19 Swansea Town 42 12 9 21 63 74 33 (0.85)
20 Plymouth Argyle 42 8 16 18 45 67 32 (0.67)
21 Grimsby Town 42 9 14 19 47 75 32 (0.63)
22 Scunthorpe Utd 42 10 10 22 52 82 30 (0.63)

Goal average was calculated by dividing the goals for by the goals against. So Argyle had survived by 0.04 of a goal. It was the most remarkable of escapes. Thank you for the reminder demportdave
I remember that day in April 1964. I was 7 years old and living in Exmouth. My late dad slithered to the floor from the settee as the score came through - Argyle 0 Rotherham 0 - such was his relief. I think it came through on the wireless and I remember an announcement that said "Argyle are safe". I knew from that point how important Argyle was to my Dad. We didn't go to many games at Home Park, because we didn't have a car as a family and my Dad taking me to watch Exeter, by train from Exmouth, was a treat. The local rivalry didn't exist then, because Argyle never had to play Exeter, and my Dad loved his football. But nothing could match walking up to Home Home Park, from Peverell Park Road, where my grand parents lived, and then climbing those "10 Steps Start Here" to enter the Zoo end and begin to soak it up. Those were the days when we were a genuine tier 2 football club.
 
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14/15 - 1 point from the Play Offs
15/16 - Play Offs
16/17 - Autos
17/18 - Play Offs
18/19 - 2 points from Relegation
19/20 - Promoted on PPG
21/21 - 16th (Behind closed doors)
21/22 - Play offs
22/23 - Autos
23/24 - 2 points from Relegation.

We don’t do dead rubber fixtures do we?
to be pedantic, should 21/22 be 'just missed play offs' ..?