Yann in court today

[Ponty]

But also worth noting that 42 in a 30 is possible disqualification. 86 in a 70 isn't (first offence). Context is everything in speeding offences and hence why the 34mph example earlier is possible even though Thomas is technically correct about the 35mph threshold.

I'd eat my socks if anyone was ever given a disqualification for 42 in a 30. Ignore the sentencing guidelines. 42 gets you a National Speed Awareness Course, anything up to and inclusive of 49mph will get you a fixed penalty (unless of course totting provisions mean you can't comply with a fixed penalty).

Context doesn't come a great deal into it.

It's the law. Police forces still adhere to the ACPO guidelines of 10% + 2mph.

That Tom is 40% above the speed limit and could invoke a ban of your licence.

 

[Ponty]

After reading some of the posts on this subject, Ponty, what a refreshingly grown up attitude.

Was just going to post the same thing jaf.

Thanks guys. It comes down to being in the wrong and accepting it.

If I wasn't speeding I wouldn't have had the consequences.

 

[Ted]

But also worth noting that 42 in a 30 is possible disqualification. 86 in a 70 isn't (first offence). Context is everything in speeding offences and hence why the 34mph example earlier is possible even though Thomas is technically correct about the 35mph threshold.

I'd eat my socks if anyone was ever given a disqualification for 42 in a 30. Ignore the sentencing guidelines. 42 gets you a National Speed Awareness Course, anything up to and inclusive of 49mph will get you a fixed penalty (unless of course totting provisions mean you can't comply with a fixed penalty).

Context doesn't come a great deal into it.

It's the law. Police forces still adhere to the ACPO guidelines of 10% + 2mph.

That Tom is 40% above the speed limit and could invoke a ban of your licence.

I know the math, I'm just talking about reality...

 

[Frank Butcher]

But also worth noting that 42 in a 30 is possible disqualification. 86 in a 70 isn't (first offence). Context is everything in speeding offences and hence why the 34mph example earlier is possible even though Thomas is technically correct about the 35mph threshold.

I'd eat my socks if anyone was ever given a disqualification for 42 in a 30. Ignore the sentencing guidelines. 42 gets you a National Speed Awareness Course, anything up to and inclusive of 49mph will get you a fixed penalty (unless of course totting provisions mean you can't comply with a fixed penalty).

Context doesn't come a great deal into it.

It's the law. Police forces still adhere to the ACPO guidelines of 10% + 2mph.

Nope. NPCC these days (not ACPO). As you say they are guidelines, but context very much applies - the extent depends on the force. And BTW I suspect Pogles 34MPH incident was a static if in Chicklade, so 10% typically.

Anyway, this has ceased to be Argyle Discussion.

 

[Presto]

Wrong Odders the police decide if an Awareness course is an option not the offender.

The police decide whether to offer a course and the guilty driver can decide on which option to take. I have been told that the criteria for offering the course is that you must be within 10% of the speed limit plus 9 miles an hour. Therefore if you are doing under 42 mph in a 30 limit you will be offered a course or under 86 in a 70 mph zone.

But also worth noting that 42 in a 30 is possible disqualification. 86 in a 70 isn't (first offence). Context is everything in speeding offences and hence why the 34mph example earlier is possible even though Thomas is technically correct about the 35mph threshold.

I attended a course after being caught doing 84mph on the M4 at Bristol.

The course organisers were not police employees and were quite easy to get on with. I found it quite educational which surprised me as I always classed myself as an experienced driver but found out I learnt a lot on the day.

I'd say it was a valuable exercise and walked away a wiser person.

Experience is irrelevant. What is of importance is competence. You can have 30 years experi nce that does not make you a competent driver.

 

[Ted]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Frank.

Back on topic...

 

[oddball]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Frank.

Back on topic...

It is on topic though and this thread is quite interesting.Songo was done for speeding....

 

[IJN]

Plus there ARE speed cameras on the A38 Alan.

 

[oddball]

More songo news and clarification on the Baggo.