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THE oldest photograph of Argyle / Club Colours

IJN

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As Ive said, it's a tad too bright.

I reckon this one is the nearest I've seen.



Maybe the Herald/Hibs one as well?

Regarding your comment on the suits, I looked at that well, but I would imagine any suit would be made far sturdier and more colourfast than a had crafted football top, plus, the contracts between the two colours (green and black) is still vast, suggest that the 'faded black' is still way, way darker than the 'faded green'.

Rest assured we WILL get the right colour (historically) sooner rather than later.
 

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I'm only posting because I need a distraction - the nerves are jangling!

Here's an image I found on Wikipedia, to which I've added IJN's green (bottom, right). I must say I was surprised when I saw the Pasoti one in this context - it doesn't look as bright - but it's exactly the same (HTML value: #009d45)

I suppose if I had to pick one that I remember from decades gone by, it'd be Islamic green, but that's very close, and hey, there probably isn't a single answer. However, Argyle should be mid-green in my fairly worthless opinion, just like the traditional green of the city.

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OK, i'll be more conciliatory, seeing as you are too.

Yes, the 'green' is lighter than the 'black' but then so is the current green. Any interpretation on what it is from that photo though, has to be bogus. If 'Mrs Mopp', the victorian club kit washer, was washing them thoroughly they'd have been fading from the very first dip into the tub. Without knowing the relative strength of the dyes involved, and how could we ever possibly know that, the fade can't be assumed as even.

Anyway, we disagree fundamentally on this, I hold no store in the significance (original colour wise) of the photo. It's just a great find and a nice historical document. You do and that's your privilege, i've made more than enough observations to cast doubt, it wouldn't get a verdict on 'balance of probabilities', let alone 'beyond all reasonable doubt'. So be it.

On the Padi Wilson/Earl Jean era shirt (shudders) I agree, that's a better representative colour for what YOU'RE looking for than the current banner green you've switched us all to. It's for me 'all in the shimmer', and that's hard to replicate on a flat screen.

I've said it often enough. If Argyle use green black and white i'm happy. Whilst I think our current green gives us a bit more class and distinctiveness, I can live with lighter green, black and white (home AND change kits). Just no more alien rainbow colours.

But for me it should be for the club to lead and us to follow, not 'tother way round. We are here to support Argyle and Argyle wear dark green. Until that changes we shouldn't is all.

NB - shuddered at Wilson/Jean front pairing, not the shirt, I had one.
 

IJN

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More people like the dark mate, that's what the various polls on here have said.

My debate is where did this dark green in the old days come from.

I'm being loaned a 1930s to add to my collection soon, that'll be interesting to see that one.
 

IJN

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Haha, I have no idea, but I can't wait to see it.

I am giving my collection to the club when I retire (not too long away).

A) I think it's a nice thing to do and B) My Mrs won't have an Argyle shirt hanging on any of our walls.
 
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Ironically, the reverse is true here. Now the kids are moving out the 'man cave project' means Mrs Smiffy will just have to 'deal with it' :cool:
 

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To be honest, I'm more worried about the purple suit!
 

IJN

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Yay, the Historical Kits site has now included the new information regarding our photo.
 

IJN

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Chuffed (silly I know) with this!

Ours is now the first known.

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Roger Walters has given us (Steve Dean and I) further information which I think is fascinating:-

I am re-researching the 1898-99 photo at the moment and will send the resume soon, when finished.

Regarding the shade of green, I think the Ogdens (1906-09) shade is about right for Plymouth Argyle's shirt, from turning into a professional League club in 1903. Looking at black & white photos from this date my impression is the same shade was used for years and it is only in contemporary times that shade has changed from season to season (probably for new kit sales?). After the break for World War II there was some controversy that the new shirts were not the traditional, right shade of green, they were lighter. The long established dominant shade of green is definitely a rich green, akin to emerald green but maybe slightly darker without being classed as dark green. The "X" on the Plymouth Borough arms is in that type of green.

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I like to think of the shade as similar to the lush green fields of Devon. I see on Pasoti that the Argyll & Sutherland Regiment tartan raises its head again and thanks Steve for your words on this subject. The regiments tartan, by the way, is not an Argyle/Argyll tartan, it is a Government tartan that is green and blue, not green and black.

I have written "Argyle Is ..." in the programme for the last three seasons to show the history of the "Argyle" word from its early beginning up to today and to explain the "Argyll" word is a relatively modern interloper brought about by the Duke of Argyll who wanted to be above and different to others; his forefathers were the Earl's of Argyle. If the club were named after the Duke or the regiment that took his spelling then it would be the Argyll Football Club and later Plymouth Argyll, which it most definitely is not.

In 1886 Argyle F.C. were founded as the green and blacks, not the green and whites, and, in fact, in the earliest descriptions are described as "black and green". The first known shirt was a black shirt with a green diagonal band. A big problem with the early football shirts was that the dyes were not 'fast', they bled into each other in the wash and even during a match on a very wet day and dyed the player! Red and white was one of the worst combinations for this. This is why when you look at the shirt colours worn in the early days of the Football League clubs that there were some seemingly odd combinations. These combinations were chosen because these dyes were more stable with each other. By the 1900 era the type of shirt material used and the type of dye had improved but the tough process of hand washing and the block soaps used would cause fading. Therefore how green an Argyle Football Club shirt was, would depend on how many washes it had.

The final Argyle FC 1902/03 shirt of green and black quarters was worn the following 1903/04 season by Plymouth Argyle Reserves. It does look a lighter shade of green but if you look at the 1900-01 photo of the Argyle Football Club, taken at Home Park, the players shirt seems to vary in style and shade. George Percival Holmes (in the front row) is wearing, what looks like, a lighter shade of green, whilst Anson Crouch (in the middle row) seems to have a darker shade of green. Note also, the combination of the green and black quarters is different in position on these two players. It seems the shirts were not purchased in one batch unlike the 1898-99 photo where the green and black halves are all the same in style and shade.



Another aspect to take into account is the different shirt materials used. Photographic evidence shows the material used for the Argyle Football Club shirt from 1898 to 1903 to be a course strong cotton, front buttoned shirt, whilst in 1903/04 Plymouth Argyle players are wearing a totally different style tight knitted pullover woollen "Jersey" material. By this time, these jersey's were able to be dyed in much richer and more stable colours and less likely to fade quickly.
 

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An amazing addendum to the above, has been supplied by Roger Walters. {Please excuse strange layout, I had to copy and paste from PDF format}

RESUME OF ARGYLE FOOTBALL CLUB at Marsh Mills 1899.

Photograph taken at the Argyle ground on either Saturday 18th March 1899, Devon Senior Cup 2"d Round match v. Tavistock. Arryle won 3-0. This match was played on Argyle's Longbridge ground.
OR
Saturday 8th April 1899, Devon Senior Cup Semi-Final v. Lifton. Argyle won 1-0.
This match was played on the Royal Artillery ground, Marsh Mills.

The Argyle line-up for both these matches is as in the photograph except Bruce Spooner who was replaced by Albert
Ledington on the 8th April, due to the serious injury he sustained playing for Devon on the 31st March. Bruce Spooner is the player dressed in his day clothes who was to have played outside left on the 8th. So is the photograph prior to the 18th March match in which Bruce Spooner did play or the 8th April where, as Argyle's star player, he would have
played? If you look at his face compared to the others, his downcast demeanour tells me it was taken on the 8th April. If it were taken on the 18th March he would be in his kit. Albert Ledington, who is in the Marsh Mills 1900 photograph, is not in this 1899 photo.

There are six players in this photograph that are also in the 1900 Marsh Mills photograph, and five of those are in the
same playing position. The 1899 and 1900 photographs are taken in the same spot (in the vicinity of where Sainsbury's
car park is today) and using the same bench in both. If you look at the tall Percy Buchan, in the back row, he is standing exactly the same in both, right arm folded over left and gazing to his right, not at the camera. Both photographs are so similar in style it is likely they were taken by the same photographer. I know the photographer of the 1900 Argyle line up to be William Grey whose studio/business premises was at 12, Cornwall Street, Plymouth. If you look at the right hand side of Colin Parson's copy, it has "12, Cornwall Street" written on it. Grey is listed at this address in the 1897 and the 1902 Kelly's Directory of Devon. Is the 1899 photo identified with a stamp, or written on the back?

This photograph was taken at a major point in the Argyle Football Club history. Since formation in 1886 they had
achieved almost nothing at a time when there was very little opposition. As a club they were held in high regard and
very important to the history of Devon Association football, but that position was based on the middle-class social
status of its members rather than results on the pitch. Despite its failure it had achieved longer survival than many other Devon clubs. The club did go under from 1894 to 97 but was revived because there were people who wanted to keep the Argyle name going. This was unusual in Devon football for the time. The 1899 photograph heralds a change in outlook and fortune for Argyle and this can be attributed to the involvement of Clarence Newby Spooner from 1897.
The Argyle Football Club, who had never won a title, won the match on the 8th April 1899 to make it through to their
first Cup Final to be played at The Rectory versus the 1st Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers on the 22nd April. A record
7,000 crowd attended, many of them to cheer Argyle into being the first civilian club to win the title for seven seasons.
Argyle lost 2-1, attributed to the superior fitness of the soldiers and the absence of star man, the injured Bruce Spooner.

Within two months of the defeat Clarence Spooner formed the Argyle Athletic Club which the Argyle Football Club
became part of. The club was on the up. The following season Argyle won the League, gaining their first title, and were
winners or runners up in the League, Cup or both in every season up to the forming of Plymouth Argyle in 1903.


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The following is a resume of the individuals in the photograph above:-

(BACK ROW. STANDING left to right)

FRANCIS CROUCH (Argyle Football Club 'Patron')
He was a clerk/accountant for a Plymouth timber merchant and became involved with the Argyle Football Club in 1897
when his son Anson, a player, joined from the Phoenix Football Club. A 'Patron' of the club in 1898-99 season,
becoming Hon. Treasurer of Argyle F.C. for 1899-00 and 1900-01. In addition to this role Frances Crouch was
secretary to the Argyle Athletic Club and it was he who officially opened the Mutley Plain club rooms on the 1st July
1899, in the absence of Clarence Spooner. In 1901 the ever growing Argyle Athletic Club was made a limited liability
company and its secretary, Crouch, very important in Spooner's team, was given 800 shares (value £100) which is
worth around £10,000 2016. This act contravened "The Football Association' rules and, later, almost ended Argyle's
plans to become a professional League club (See history on Greens on Screen, Chapter 6). In the enquiry conducted by
the Devon F. A. it was Crouch that said that the Argyle Athletic Club and the Argyle Football Club were two separate
organisations. This was true but difficult to understand because the Argyle Football Club operated, from 1899, under
the auspices of the Argyle Athletic Club.

Though it was the Argyle Athletic Club that purchased the lease on Home Park with the intention of turning the Argyle
Football Club into a professional League club, due to the problem with "The F.A.", Plymouth Argyle had to be formed
as a new and separate company. The ridiculousness of the situation is evident when, during the setting up process,
Crouch, who was secretary of both companies, talked at meetings of sending a letter to the other, which was himself !
Eventually Crouch gave up the secretary-ship of the Argyle Athletic Club to become the Plymouth Argyle Football
Club's first secretary, a position he held from 1903 to 1907. He died n 1927, aged 78.

WILLIAM ROWSE (Argyle Football Club Hon. Treasurer)
By a process of elimination, as I recognise the other Argyle F.C. officials for the 1898/99 season, I am guessing that this is the club Hon. Treasurer, William Rowse. He had been the Argyle F.C. Hon. Treasurer since the club reformed in
1897. Prior to this he and his two brothers had all played for the Phoenix Football Club. With his brothers, George
Avery Rowse (an Argyle F.C. player, and later a Director of Plymouth Argyle), and Henry Lloyd Rowse (an Argyle
Athletic Club member/shareholder) they had a dental practice in Houndiscombe Place, North Road, Plymouth, deep in
Argyle territory, for the club from foundation in 1886 until its final seasons had been very much a Mutley rooted club
without being exclusive of members who lived outside this Plymouth suburb. The Rowse brothers acquired more dental
practices, at 39, Albert Road, Devonport and at Tavistock, Holsworthy, Kingsbridge and Totnes.

STANLEY VOSPER (right-back)
He was one of the many ex-Public school players that played for Argyle, having been a pupil at Mannamead School
before it amalgamated with Plymouth College in 1896. His family ran two farms close to Argyle's Marsh Mills ground
which is possibly why he left the Plymouth Football Club in 1898 to join Argyle. The highly successful farms were well
known in Britain and Abroad for their pioneering use of the latest farming technology. With Argyle, he played as a fullback and forward, and in 1899100 played for Devon County in the outside-right position. He stayed with Argyle F.C.
right up to the final 1902/03 season in which he switched codes playing mostly for &e Argyle Rugby Club (formed
1900). After Argyle, he joined the Plymouth Ruby Football Club, 16 years before it became Plymouth Albion in 1920.
He died 11952,aged74.

PERCY NICOLLE BUCHAN (goalkeeper)
The son of a Navy Captain, another former pupil of Mannamead School, where he was made to play in goal as he
towered in height over everyone else. He made the position his own and was ever-present as goalkeeper for Devon
County from 1894 until 1903 when he retired from Association football, over 50 appearances. It was said he was good
enough to have played professional League football. When the Home Park Football Club attempted to become
Plymouth's first professional League club and brought the first professional clubs to Plymouth in early 1895, it was
Buchan who played in goal, the first at Home Park was against Small Heath (the current Birmingham City) and further
matches versus Woolwich Arsenal (before they moved to North London) and Millwall Athletic. When Buchan defected
from Plymouth F.C. to Argyle in October 1898 it was major news in Devon football and signalled Clarence Spooner's
plans for the club. When Argyle were about to turn professional they wanted Buchan to continue with Plymouth Argyle
but he did not want to change his amateur status and decided to retire from the sport at the end of the 1902/03 season, aged 27. Buchan was also a very good swashbuckling cricketer and was captain of the Argyle Cricket Club from its formation in 1899. He worked as an important water engineer for Plymouth Corporation for 41 years and died in 1945 aged 69.
You will notice that in this photograph, and the 1900 Marsh Mills photo, Buchan is wearing a white (?) shirt but in the
one taken of Argyle F.C on the Home Park pitch in 1901 he is wearing the club's green and black halved shirt. This is
because 'The Football Association' did not stipulate in the rules that goalkeepers had to wear a different colour jersey,
to the club shirt, until 1909.

ARCHIE PONSFORD FISHER (left-back)
Archie Fisher was from another local middle-class school closely associated with Argyle, Cheveley Hall in
Mannamead. For many Argyle players this was their first club on leaving school, aged between 16 to 18. He first played
for Argyle in 1891, aged 16 whilst still a pupil. Argyle F.C., low on members and struggling to survive were kept going
by schoolboys assisting to make up the numbers. When Argyle reformed n 1897, after being defunct since 1894, he
rejoined the club from the Phoenix Football Club. When this photograph was taken he was near the end of his Argyle
career; in July 1899 his job as a civil engineer took him to Llandudno in North Wales. He died in 1958, aged 83.

CLARENCE NEWBY SPOONER (Argyle Football Club President)
Without Clarence Spooner there would be no Plymouth Argyle today. It was his vision and money that made the club.
His love affair with Argyle began on the 11th January 1893 when he first played for them, as one of those helping to
make up the numbers, and that love lasted up until his death on Christmas Day 1952; he had been in the ceremonial role as President of Plymouth Argyle from 1947 to his death, aged 82. As a player he had played like Buchan, for the
professionally ambitious Home Park Football Club. Some of those people associated with Home Park were later used
by Spooner to help set up Plymouth Argyle in 1903. Preceding all this, in 1890 he had formed the Avenue Football
Club, initially for the employees of the Spooner & Co department store in Plymouth. From 1892, to improve the
football standard of the Avenue Club, he brought in football mercenaries whom he rewarded with gifts from the
department store, financial payment and/or a job with the firm. This was the first instances of professionalism in Devon
Association football, veiled and against all the rules.

Spooner was part of the revival of the Argyle Football Club name in 1897 becoming Vice-president for the 1897/98
season. When he became 'President" of the Argyle Football Club in 1898 he effectively took total control of it
Probably a first for the club, he introduced and took control of fitness training to improve levels so they could compete
equally with servicemen teams. Aged29 in the photograph he had taken over the running of Spooner & Co, as 'Senior Partner' from his father. He did occasionally play for Argyle and made a handful of appearances during this 1898/99
season, his last. Being considerably taller than the average he had a physical presence on and off the pitch.

THOMAS 'TOM' FLOYD (Argyle Football Club Hon. Secretary)
Tom Floyd had made occasional appearances for Argyle from 1889 but was better known and very popular as the club's
secretary from 1897 to 1902, a time of great change. Along with Francis Crouch and one or two others he was part of
Clarence Spooner's select band of achievers. When referees took over from umpires in officiating football, Tom Floyd
was the first official Devon referee in 1891. At the end of 1902 he emigrated to Durban, South Africa to take up a
valuable position. At a farewell supper Clarence Spooner accredited him for building up Argyle membership from 11 to
250.

MIDDLE ROW. SITTING ON BENCH. (left to right)

CHARLES HENRY SHUTE (right-half)
He was bom in Barbados, then part of the British Empire, where his father was working. In 1893, with he and his
family now living in Isleworth, Middlesex, England, Charles joined the Royal Engineers in Plymouth. Whilst we think
of Plymouth as closely associated with the Royal Navy it was then equally associated with the Army due to the port
being so important to servicing the British Empire. It was the Association football playing soldiers that made the sport
so popular in Plymouth, in a county otherwise dominated sport wise by Rugby. Large numbers of soldiers were based
here in barracks in the town and around it. Infantry Regiments tended to be here for less than three years but the units of the Royal Engineers and the Royal Artillery were here for longer periods" Facilities and terrain were conducive to their training. Often their servicemen played in civilian teams, like Argyle. Shute was a regular in the Argyle team, and played for Devon County, in the 1898/99 and 1899/00 season until called away in February 1900 and sent with his unit to fight in the South African (Boer) War.

When this photograph was taken, during Argyle's Cup run, his Army record shows he was sick from duty, with eight
days in hospital up until the 15ft March 1899, due to an eye contusion caused by a football accident. He died in
Woolwich, London in 1957, aged 78.

JOHN CLIFTON PETHICK (centre-half)
Known as Clifton Pethick, he was a member of Plynouth's famous building contactor family. They built much of the
public buildings and housing in Plymouth, built railway lines in the, then expanding, network and their quarries on
Dartmoor supplied much of the granite for building in London, including London Bridge which was later bought by
Americans and re-erected in the U.S.A. If you ever walk across London's Vauxhall Bridge remember his family built
the foundations and piers. He was a former pupil of Plymouth College. During the 1890's he was working for Pethick
Brothers on various projects in South Wales. Whilst based there he played for the Barry Football Club. In 1896 he was
taken to court in Barry and fined 5 shillings for driving without lights; this must have been one of the earliest instances
of such a motoring offence.

He joined Argyle in September 1898 and was a regular in the team until the end in i903 and then he continued with
Plymouth Argyle Reserves up to 1908 and even made an appearance as late as 1914/15 season. In 1903/04 he made one appearance for the first team in a Southern League match. In 1897 Clarence Newby Spooner married the daughter of John Pethick, the head of the contracting firm. Clifton Pethick died in 1952, aged75.

FRANCIS ALLEN "FRANK" DERRY (left-half)
Frank Derry first played for Argyle F.C. in the season it was reformed 1897/98,joining from Phoenix F.C.. He was a
regular in the first XI until leaving Plymouth at the end of January 1900 to take up a post as a journalist on the Bath
Herald. Whilst with Argyle, Frank had been a journalist in Plymouth for the Western Morning News. He did retum to
Plymouth to make an occasional appearance for Argyle which is the case with him figuring in the Marsh Mills team
photograph taken on the 17th March 1900. By 1911 his journalist career has progressed into him being the 'Publicity
Manager' of a steamship company, and by 1922 his career has resulted in him being in charge of publicity for the
Cunard Line, a very important role for such a high profile company and one that he held for 30 years. He died in 1952,
aged73.

FRONT ROW. SITTING. (left to right)

MARTIN REGINALD TOZER (outside-right)
From 1892 to 1894 Argyle F.C. used many players to make up the numbers and this player was one of those who
helped out during those years. In more than one of his membership clubs, including the Home Park Football Club, he
was a colleague of Clarence Spooner. He first became a member and regular player for Argyle on it reforming in 1897.
His final appeamnce for Argyle came in January 1900. He was an architect who, in the 1911 Census, was working for
the H.M. Ordnance Works and living in Bournemouth. By the 1920's he had become an artist and fine art dealer and
printer, living in Falmouth. Paintings by "Martin R. Tozer" and postcards printed by him still occasionally come up for auction and examples of which can be found online. He died in Falmouth in 1966, aged 93.

J. MCRENNIE (inside-right)
Unfortunately my research has turned up little on this player. The 1898-99 season was the only where he featured
regularly for Argyle. He left to play for Defiance (Torpoint) in 1899/00 and then joined Essa (Saltash) for 1900/01 and
1901/02. In 1902/03 he made one further appearance for Argyle. On his initial appearances for Argyle he was shown as
"Rennie" and thereafter consistently shown as 'McRennie". I have found no record of a 'McRennie" in genealogical
resources being in the area. There was a player shown as "Renny'' or *Renney" playing for East Stonehouse based clubs from 1888 to 1898 and the only likely match I could find was James Crispin Renny, born 1867 in the locality and
residing there. In October 1902 Renny, a carpenter, joined the Royal Navy, which fits in with "McRennie" disappearing
from the local club scene after 1901/02. If anyone has any enlightening information I would be pleased to receive it.

HUGH EMMANUEL ROSE (centre-forward)
In this 1899 photograph he is the newest addition to the Argyle team. Rose, a soldier in the Royal Engineers, was
introduced to the Argyle Football Club by fellow soldier Charles Henry Shute (Argyle's right-half, see above) and made
his debut on the 28th January 1899 in which he scored 5 goals in a 7 -1 victory over a Royal Artillery (scratch) team. He was a regular in the Argyle team and for Devon County until 1900 r,hen he left for the South African War, as did Shute. The two soldiers both returned to Argyle for a couple of appearances at the end of 1901. Rose was decorated with aD.S.O. in World War I for shooting mines until his chest was covered in blood to allow his ship escape a minefield. He died in 1961, aged 89.

REGINALD "RFG" DANN (inside-left)
One of the former Public school pupils of Cheveley Hall who joined Argyle over the seasons. He joined the club, aged
16, on its reforming n 1897 and was a regular goal scorer for the green and blacks up until the end of the 1900/01
season. From 1899 to 1901 he also played for Devon County and in the 1900/01 season was made 'Club Captain' of
Argyle. Whilst with Argyle he worked in the drapery trade which took him away from Plymouth in 1901 to work in
Nottingham. In 1902 he had moved to London where he played for the famous amateur club, Clapton. His London
address led to the first Plymouth Argyle manager, Frank Brettell, signing him as an amateur to be a 1903/04 cover
player should there be any injuries and illnesses whilst the team were playing its regular batches of Southern and
Western League matches away from home.

In 1910 Reg Dann emigrated to Canada, following in the footsteps of his older brother Sydney, who had also played for
the Argyle Football Club. He was enticed by the Dominions Land Act which offered a 160 acres of land for a small $10
fee to farm on the flat unpopulated prairies of Canada. From 1895 to 1914 over a million settlers ventured into this
virgin territory. There were four other Argyle F.C. players who followed a similar path. Dann volunteered in 1914 to
join the Canadian Expeditionary Force and he fought in France and Belgium. At the end of World War 1, whilst
temporarily back in London he met a lady and they married in 1918. He returned to Canada with a wife and they farmed together at Viking, Alberta. He out-lived his wife and in the later years of his life he moved across Canada to
Vancouver to be with his daughter. Reg Dann died on the 16th October 1975, aged 94. Of all those, known, in the 1899
photograph he was the last to go and was only survived by two other known Argyle Football Club (1886-1903) players,
from a total over 500.

BRUCE SPOONER (Outside Left)
He is the youngest brother of Argyle's President, Clarence Newby Spooner, being ten years younger. He attended and
played football for Mannamead School ln 1895/96 which amalgamated with Plymouth College in 1896 to become
Plymouth & Mannamead College who he played football for into the 1896/97 season. In March 1897 the school
magazine says of his football prowess *Very fast and kicky, but was what is called in school boy parlance a 'slacker' ".
On leaving school he played for Plymouth F.C. in 1897198 season and then joined Argyle for 1898/99. He shone for
Argyle scoring 10 goals in 2l appearances from a wing position. In recognition he was called up to play for Devon. In a
match on Good Friday, 31st March 1899 he played for the County side versus the eminent amateur side Surrey
Wanderers. What started off as a good day ended as a very bad day. He scored a hat-trick as Devon won a famous
victory 4-2 but in the last few minutes Bruce Spooner reportedly snapped a ligament.

This injury put him out of Argyle's Devon Senior Cup Semi-final on the 8th April 1899, the day I believe this
photograph was taken. Without him Argyle lost the final and it was attributed to this injury. He remained out of football
for seven months and returned in 189911900 season to make two appearances for Argyle F.C. but, despite being heavily strapped, his playing days were over at the age of 20. He did not work with Clarence Spooner in running the Spooner & Co department store but started his own business, Spooner & Holditch, Auctioneers, Valuers and Estate Agents at 48, George Street, Plymouth. The rest of the Spooner brothers all became involved and supported the running of Plymouth Argyle from its 1903 beginning except Bruce Spooner. He died in 1926 at the young age of 47.

Footnote: It is mentioned above that the Argyle Football Club reformed in 1897 after being defunct from the end of
1894. They were able to reform by the players and officials of the Phoenix Football Club throwing its identity into
Argyle. Some of those who did so are in this photograph, namely - Francis Crouch, William Rowse, Archie Ponsford
Fisher, Francis Allen Derry. In recognition of the assistance of the Phoenix Football Club, Archie P. Fisher was made
'Club Captain' of the Argyle Football Club for the 1897-98 season.

NOTE: Whilst this is the oldest photograph currently known of the Argyle Football Club, Ernest Henry Babb, who was
Vice-President of the club in 1898/99 season, at the time of this photograph, and a founder member in 1886, said in
a letter published in the Western Morning News on 24th March 1934 regarding "Argyle's Origin" that he had a
photograph of the original 1886 team next to him as he wrote the letter. He also writes he has an Argyle F.C. team
photo from the 1888/89 season. So there are, or were, Argyle F.C. photographs going back to its very beginning. Babb,
who died in 1953, had married but there were no children so where those precious photographs went is anyone's guess.

Roger Walters, Wednesday 8th June, 2016.