Why not order more Team shirts and reduce the large range of overpriced Tee Shirts and occasional cardigans that nobody buys ?
Argyle Hip Flask for example of 21st Century product ?
Argyle Hip Flask for example of 21st Century product ?
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Shirts debacle.
- Thread starter OnicknowlePete
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you'd think someone would have had enough common sense to keep one of each size so that people could try on for next 'pre-order'. my dad came on saturday, hasn't been able to get to the shop before as doesn't live down here. clearly needs bigger than medium but unsure of size. still doesn't know what to pre-order as all he knows is that he needs bigger than medium!
Abbotts Ann Green":rlu0zkyr said:
You're missing the point that there is a huge mark up on these shirts. If they order 1,000, they only have to sell about 400 to break even. The rest are 100% profit, even if sold for a fiver.
ARGYLE SHOULD HAVE USED F.B.T. THIS FIRM HAS A REP THAT LIVES IN PLYMOUTH,IS AN ARGYLE FAN AND THEY COULD HAVE EASILY COPED WITH ANY AMOUNT OF ORDERS. :furious: :banghead:
Steve Evans":2l07wxh0 said:
Aah, but it's not just about ordering replica kits for sale in the club shop. A kit deal is about negotiating a price for the items for the club's own use. They will need hundreds of shirts, shorts, pair of socks, track suits, training strips, travel wear etc etc. We don't know what deal Argyle get from Puma let alone whether this firm could match it.
lundan.i know vernon very well and they could match puma no problem.they manufacture all the kits for doncaster for example.Lundan Cabbie":rozlzl3r said:
Lundan Cabbie":1fgmckh9 said:
If only it were so simple. The industry figure on profits that clubs make from shirts is about £12-£15, the manufacturers (and the government through VAT) make more than that on each one sold. In the case of Plymouth it's closer to the higher figure as most are sold in the club shop. But having said that, shirt sales are big business in the shop and account for much of the turnover, and staff and on-costs all have to be paid from any money made.
To use your example the cost to the club for each shirt (assuming a shop price of £50) is about £25 each . Sell 400 at full price (includes your £15 profit and £10 VAT) and they have made £6000 profit on those, sell the other 600 at a fiver (of which you still have to pay £1 in VAT on each one) then you are suffering big losses.
People often see the manufacturing cost of just under £5 and think that is what the club pays but it's far from the truth.
It's only a handful of seasons ago that the club had loads of shirts left at the end of a season and had to flog them off cheap. Therefore they do not want to be repeating that exercise.
Maybe one of you can help me with which season that was but it was certainly in the last decade.
The real problem here is the variable sizing. If the club could get early examples from the manufacturer of what the sizes translate to in chest sizes, then we could all pre-order in confidence.
Maybe one of you can help me with which season that was but it was certainly in the last decade.
The real problem here is the variable sizing. If the club could get early examples from the manufacturer of what the sizes translate to in chest sizes, then we could all pre-order in confidence.
Looking forward to my Away shirt arriving Soon as pre ordered
My own fault for not pre ordering in July so wait for next batch to arrive
My own fault for not pre ordering in July so wait for next batch to arrive
Abbotts Ann Green":2jo2geuq said:
Let me try again then......
If the cost price is £25 each and the club order 1,000 then that is an outlay of £25,000.
If they price them at £50 each (£41.50 + VAT) and sell 603 then they will have broken even.
At this point they haven't made ANYTHING!
All the profit lies in what they can get for the other 397 shirts and every penny after VAT will be their profit. Now if they can get the full price for most of them then that is fantastic but if some end up in the end of season sale for a fiver then that will all be profit too. (well £4.16 after taking off the 84p VAT)
Sorry but anyone who tries to defend this situation is cleanly happy that the club is losing thousands of pounds. If this was a one off then you could accept this but the same thing happened last season.
I totally support that the club should be financially self sufficient and that is why it is so frustrating to hear the club is potentially losing thousands of pounds.
Please let not have another poster stating that you need to preorder because anyone who knows about retail well tell you about the importance of impulse buying to improve profits.
I totally support that the club should be financially self sufficient and that is why it is so frustrating to hear the club is potentially losing thousands of pounds.
Please let not have another poster stating that you need to preorder because anyone who knows about retail well tell you about the importance of impulse buying to improve profits.