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GreenArmy1984":19j1iw4x said:
Who Remembers Our Dark Blue Away Kit ?


That kit sticks in my mind because I remember Argyle were playing Rochdale at Home, but Rochdale either forgot their kit or there was a clash in colours or something so they had to wear OUR away blue kit.

But the sticking point is I remember a Rochdale defender going down pretty much untouched, I think the ball hit him in the stomach softly, and he just went down and was eventually stretchered off after about 10 minutes to an applause around the ground.
 
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X Isle":3mf48ycp said:
...while i'm at it I'll add that I'll add that the advocates of perpetuating this myth are just using it as a means to bring about change to a lighter green. They're ignoring inconvenient truths because it helps their agenda.

It's the same thing as Trump blaming Mexicans and Muslims for crime and security concerns whilst totalling overlooking gun control.

X Isle, It is not often I disagree with you, but [forgive the pun] you are shutting your eyes to common sense regarding the easier identification of a player on the far side of a pitch to make a long pass, when that player wears dark colours
especially in an evening match. I will not definitely say that is a game changer but it would make a positive contribution.
 

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X Isle":1yd2bm6k said:
...while i'm at it I'll add that I'll add that the advocates of perpetuating this myth are just using it as a means to bring about change to a lighter green. They're ignoring inconvenient truths because it helps their agenda.

It's the same thing as Trump blaming Mexicans and Muslims for crime and security concerns whilst totalling overlooking gun control.

X Isle, It is not often I disagree with you, but [forgive the pun] you are shutting your eyes to common sense regarding the easier identification of a player on the far side of a pitch to make a long pass, when that player wears dark colours
especially in an evening match. I will not definitely say that is a game changer but it would make a positive contribution.

And it is hugely debatable, if not being able to see our own players quickly and perfectly IS a factor, that it can be as much a positive as a negative.

The aim of the game is to keep possession and score goals isn't it?! It's altogether easier to defend well than attack well and any 'camouflage' factor in an an attacker's favour would surely be lost, and then some, if that player's very own team mate can also not pick him out. :crazy:
 
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X Isle":3d0425la said:
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X-isle - it is physically obvious, the shade is too dark.
This is not the first season since being in dark green, we have had to switch to a lighter colour, because fans, players and managers considered the visibility of dark shirts a problem.
Firstly, as much as I love green and black stripes from the seventies promotion season, We switched to green and white stripes for the 2nd half, because the all green/black was considered too dark.
Secondly and more significantly, following the imposition of the dreaded dark green, we switched to white for an evening game during Sturrock's 2nd reign, because all parties considered it too dark.Incidentally, we played really well that night against a top of the table Birmingham. So saying the Blackpool defeat was partly caused by the all white - is rubbish. Basically Blackpool was a shocker full stop.
The last time England played Germany away and won 3-2. The Germans wore a dark green shirt and again this was universally sighted as a bad choice re visibility.
There is a reason why very few clubs wear dark shirts, simply not good for visibility. Particularly not helped by the current poor lighting on the Mayflower side.
I agree with you totally regards random 'foreign' colours being imposed as terrible away kits in recent years, but the same commercialism argument stands for why the hell was dark green imposed with no consultation.

Emerald green and white stripes and black trim, white shorts, and green/black hoop socks would work, re both visibility and ensuring all 3 club colours are featured
I agree with Foreigner, it has been done to death.

I agree with the concept that it may aid the crowd, most are older than the players and macula degeneration will have set in. That is a valid reason to change to a lighter (ensemble) kit.

While we're talking about death however, it'll be over my dead body that I accept there is a playing advantage to having a white/bright kit. Unless our players eyesight, in their prime, is significantly lower on average to the eleven opposition players, also in their prime, then it is a physical impossibility that they can see things clearer than us. In the small margins of split seconds in a football match if Carey perceives he can pick out a Kennedy run better out the corner of his eye in open play, or Sonny's movement at a corner/free kick...then so too can the opposition to track that run or to pick up their man at the set play.

To suggest otherwise defies how eyes and brains work. I am not saying a dark kit helps us, but neither does it hinder us. It's neutral. We switch to a light/bright kit it will help the opposition every bit as much as it helps us. We need to play better, changing the kit will not improve our performance.

By all means do it to help the Mr. Magoo's in the crowd but citing a playing reason is just excuse mongering.

NB - For historical record NEVER have I said the Blackpool result had anything to do with the white kit. As explained above, kits have nothing to do with performance, the effect of a kit is totally neutral...that is physically AND scientifically obvious :wink:
There are obvious disadvantages with a dark green kit and obvious advantages. Some, including myself, think the disadvantageous outweigh the advantages, others think the opposite and some , like yourself, belief one balances the other. Their is little beyond our own logic (each to our own) to indicate either way. Professional football is played at a ferocious pace and to me it is a significant advantage to be able to pick out a team mate that split second earlier, it's all about fine margins and as David Brailsford would have it "marginal gains".
 
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How can you compare spotting a player to pick out a pass say 30/40 yards away with the opposition being able to mark/pick up said player when maybe 5/10 yards away? Not comparing like with like is FAKE SCIENCE!
 

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Scientifically the colour most visible to the human eye and most quickly recognised is yellow.
 
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A teams colours are crucial and given the huge number of responses in this thread and every other thread on the subject over the years it's very important to Argyle fans.
After all we are THE Greens.

Like others I have an opinion. And like others opinions it will probably be jumped on by those who think otherwise.
No problem, go ahead.

For what it's worth I favour the older emerald green with white and a small amount of black to the current murky and when combined with black, depressing green.

But more importantly unless Puma are prepared to abandon their policy of offering only a few uninspiring and bland templates to EFL clubs and seriously listen to their clients and their clients fan base, all we can realistically hope for is that the shade and the amount of green is the only choice we and Argyle will get.
 
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GreenArmy1984":1p5r9hm5 said:
Would love to see Argyle back in Green & White Stripes next season

Proper Argyle Home Shirt :scarf:

No it's not, we only started stripes in the 1970s
 
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GreenArmy1984":1enxoe6j said:
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GreenArmy1984":1enxoe6j said:
Would love to see Argyle back in Green & White Stripes next season

Proper Argyle Home Shirt :scarf:

No it's not, we only started stripes in the 1970s

Sorry Frank I don't remember the 70s as I am so young !

Stripes aren't Argyle, we just seem to have them foisted on us occasionally.
 

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The "proper" green (not that dark, branded monstrosity), black and /or white. I believe that visibility is an issue with our home kit, I also believe that the obvious answer is to upgrade the floodlights.