bathpilgrim":38kmumwk said:
Jones the Green":38kmumwk said:
bathpilgrim":38kmumwk said:
Neilio":38kmumwk said:
bathpilgrim":38kmumwk said:
Sven to come back and rescue us. He is England's best manager ever (statistically), he is out of work, he has an up-to-date knowledge of English football and we know he would do it.
In what way statistically?
I think you'll find the best England manager (statistically) has just left, and old Sven finds himself down in fifth......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16941457
OK fair enough, but I'd like to go with.....
Win % + loss % + progress in major tournaments = the best manager ever on paper.
Ha ha! :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should know, Neilio. that by "statistics", bathpilgrim always means the carefully selected figures that support his statements, and not any others!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
Hello Jones The Green ! Didn't think it would take long for someone with your voiyeuristic obssession with the England football team to get involved in this debate. Let me assure you that your opinions are as welcome as Alan Green, Alan Hansen and Alex Ferguson - that is to say NOT AT ALL.
And greetings to you, bathpilgrim! :wave:
I of course totally understand why the opinions of Alan Hansen and Alex Ferguson are unwelcome to someone like you. After all, as a player and a Manager respectively, they have achieved overwhelming success in the game and therefore as pundits know what they are talking about. Clearly unwelcome and threatening to those that don't! :lol:
"Voiyeuristic obssession" with the England team, eh? We'll be charitable and make no comment on your spelling ( :doh: :lol: ) and make it clear once again that my primary fascination is not with the team but a certain element of their support.
Most England fans are great, and I have no problem with the England team doing well for their sakes. But a section of the English support, the "Ingurlund numpties", are just hilarious. Jingoistic and prejudiced beyond belief, they ignore all evidence to the contrary and continue to insist that the England team are one of the strongest contenders at tournaments. The Red-top tabloid readers, those who think the very fact that THEY ARE ENGLAND should be enough to paralyse "Johnny Foreigner"! :doh:
The sort of people, in fact, who carefully select highly dodgy statistics to attempt to "prove" England are the fifth best team in the world!!! :facepalm:
Why shouldn't anyone have an interest in observing such people? They're truly hilarious.
What is currently interesting me, very much, is just what excuses such people will come up with, when England have their highly probable usual tournament disaster this summer?
Perhaps it will be "the team was disrupted by the Manager change." Or the old favourites, "the players were tired after a long hard season (other countries apparently don't have Leagues in which their players play all season :roll: ) or "we are unlucky/robbed/cheated."
What is actually needed, for the sake of English football, is an appreciation by everyone that the game is badly organised and run from top to bottom, that players of sufficently high enough quality are not being produced, and that fundamental change is essential.
The "ingurlund mentality", bathpilgrim, does not help one iota towards making such change. It just gets those responsible off the hook. :sad: