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Ade the green":3a2b9auu said:
I have. Since discovering that only outline planning is being sought for HHP with full for Grandstand, I hope planning is granted from this initial application. I feel the AFT should have taken this into consideration also and not objected, but taken a stance of objection against full planning for HHP unless a conversation could be had to discuss the benefits for the football club (and not some going flim flam about swarms of Nandos fans buying up all our tickets after they've stuffed themselves with chicken and run it off in the gym).
If the above is nailed-on true, that works for me too. Grandstand goes ahead unabated and the rest gets properly considered on its merits. Hopefully that would mean yes to the ice rink and hotel on Western Gateway and no to the offices, food, drink outlets. Keep Central Park as a leisure/sports complex.
Yes let's build a leisure complex and not put any food outlets on it, that'll draw in the punters.
Are you hungry after your gym session? Kids starving after ice skating? Don't worry you can buy them pie and chips from one of the Home Park vans! Everyone knows gym buffs and young families flock to burger vans.
As for the offices, too right if we're building a brand new conferencing facility I sure as hell don't want a load of office workers on site who could potentially hire it out. Are we some sort of business or something.[/quote]
Define 'we'....are you speaking as an Akkeron fan, or an Argyle fan?[/quote]
Can I just ask if your objection is to having any providers of food is just that or if it's a worry that McDonald's and KFC will be the outlet of choice? To be honest with you, I'd object to fast food outlets being on the site but if it's a step up to Nando's or the like I think it will enhance the area.[/quote]
Honest question deserves an honest answer.
I think something along the lines of McDo's or KFC would be utter disaster but personally I'd also regard something like Nando's as pretty bland chain fast food too and a suite of restaurants such as this, with - what? - a Wetherspoons or similar tagged on would simply make that area of Central Park look like any other identikit soulless food/business park in Anywheresville in the UK. If food and drink is required, why not look into something innovative and quality but still inexpensive like an area for street food vendors and/or local microbreweries having pitches for their product. That might still compete with Argyle but at least it would be interesting and would have the advantage of not concreting over everything, taking up every scrap of space and hemming in Home Park forever.
People often say that Argyle's location in Central Park is one of the most attractive things about the club and I agree with that, so why are so many so keen to sell that down the river by turning it into Sixfields or Glanford Park. There could and should be a halfway house here that sees Argyle's infrastructure push on whilst allowing for sensible development around the ground.
I understand why James Brent/Akkeron want to do it in the way that is being planned but I just don't agree with it. I'm also accepting there is nothing I can do about it. Will watch with interest as to how things unfold. I suspect it won't get the full go-ahead.[/quote]
Probably not but the likelihood is what will be given the green light will at least be the Ice Arena and food outlets. Whilst I think I understand what you would accept or expect I can't really see why independents would even think about this site. Someone said six outlets which to me seems a bit high. A Nando's is a favourite of footballers and chicken is a staple of people who do a lot of excercise so if there was a choice between Nando's and KFC I presume we'd both not want the KFC. Different with burgers as it's the staple of young children but we certainly wouldn't want McDonald's.
As far as independent, I can't think of anything better than either an Argyle bar open for food and drink 7 days a week or if the members bar can be a football themed bar and also I'd like it to be a bar and restaurant serving better quality than burger and chips. I'd probably have to go back to the plans to see how big the bars are but as they are over two floors it should have a fairly high capacity.