Trouble at the End (32 fans banned)

[Sainghin Green]

Condemn, punish and educate and at the same time police and protect effectively. Bit like weeds in the garden - constant vigilance and regular treatment.

 

[Green 1886]

Equal rights for women - apart from at the turnstiles at Argyle where they should not be searched 🤪

 

[loyal1970]

It’s the go to song for English football hooligan pondlife. Of course it’s meaningless and they’d poo their pants if they actually came across someone from the IRA but anyway

So it's effectively like messing around when the teacher leaves the classroom. In that they need constant supervision.

I previously described these people of having the mental age of a 10 year old, but now I feel like even that is too generous...

"It'll never go away - fact" - your certainty on this statement is impressive. I don't know if it will or not, but wouldn't it be wonderful if we could, just maybe, educate these morons to not behave like petulant toddlers when nasty Wigan Athletic celebrate scoring a goal?i

 

[loyal1970]

You have lost me what has the IRA got to do with a scuffle against Wigan

 

[Deleted member 9145]

You have lost me what has the IRA got to do with a scuffle against Wigan

Really? Loyal1970 with an England flag doesn't get the link between football hooligans carrying out assaults and the "no surrender" song"? C'mon.

I was in Marseille for England v Russia, the hooligan's "finest" hour, and "no surrender" was the hooligan's anthem. And there were George Cross flags with EFL teams names on them all around the stadium. Hooliganism and "no surrender" are synonymous and it's not just the IRA aspect, it's the I'm a tough guy and will never surrender message.

 

[Old Gunner]

Really? Loyal1970 with an England flag doesn't get the link between football hooligans carrying out assaults and the "no surrender" song"? C'mon.

I was in Marseille for England v Russia, the hooligan's "finest" hour, and "no surrender" was the hooligan's anthem. And there were George Cross flags with EFL teams names on them all around the stadium. Hooliganism and "no surrender" are synonymous and it's not just the IRA aspect, it's the I'm a tough guy and will never surrender message.

I recall that our ‘lads’ were a little outclassed on that occasion.

 

[Daz]

Really? Loyal1970 with an England flag doesn't get the link between football hooligans carrying out assaults and the "no surrender" song"? C'mon.

I was in Marseille for England v Russia, the hooligan's "finest" hour, and "no surrender" was the hooligan's anthem. And there were George Cross flags with EFL teams names on them all around the stadium. Hooliganism and "no surrender" are synonymous and it's not just the IRA aspect, it's the I'm a tough guy and will never surrender message.

Having a St George cross flag with an EFL team name on it does not make you a hooligan. FFS.

 

[Daz]

I recall that our ‘lads’ were a little outclassed on that occasion.

What a weird response on this thread. Some real non hooligan football fans were seriously injured by Russian thugs, the very thing everyone on here everyone is calling out - yet you seem to revel in English people being 'outclassed' in thuggery.

 

[Emu]

Equal rights for women - apart from at the turnstiles at Argyle where they should not be searched 🤪

How many women have you come across that bring offensive weapons/cause thuggery at football matches?

 

[Balham Green]

What a weird response on this thread. Some real non hooligan football fans were seriously injured by Russian thugs, the very thing everyone on here everyone is calling out - yet you seem to revel in English people being 'outclassed' in thuggery.

I may have misunderstood but I got the feeling that old gunner liked a fight when younger from his previous posts. There are others on this thread who are less than critical of the actions of the small minority of bone heads. Even an administrator stating some of them are quite articulate.

 

[Old Gunner]

Lot of projection going on there Daz. You’re very quick to bite aren’t you. To be clear…our thugs got turned over by their thugs which I hope was a salutary lesson to them I.e. there’s always someone out there tougher than you. As for revelling in innocent bystanders being injured…please don’t write such utter nonsense based on my 12 word response.

 

[Old Gunner]

I may have misunderstood but I got the feeling that old gunner liked a fight when younger from his previous posts. There are others on this thread who are less than critical of the actions of the small minority of bone heads. Even an administrator stating some of them are quite articulate.

I did but I was rubbish at it!

 

[justanotherfan]

I feel that this thread has now lost all meaning, finegreen obviously disagrees with the violence aspect of the confrontation but blames the police and stewards, he has painted himself into a corner, his offensive descriptions of other posters is abusive and should not be tolerated on a fans forum. Others who should know better are rising to the bait and taking the discussion down roads that should not be travelled, i.e. wars, the IRA and Suffragettes etc.. Others come across as groupies for the more hard core in the crowd who should never be called "fans or supporters". When positively identified the culprits should be banned.

 

[Deleted member 9145]

Having a St George cross flag with an EFL team name on it does not make you a hooligan. FFS.

I didn't say it did, don't misrepresent me. Though many of them were, I stood near a Scunthorpe fan with such a flag and a 11/12 year old son, both bare chested arms outstretched singing No Surrender with gusto and revelling in the fighting at the end of the game.

 

[metroace]

What a weird response on this thread. Some real non hooligan football fans were seriously injured by Russian thugs, the very thing everyone on here everyone is calling out - yet you seem to revel in English people being 'outclassed' in thuggery.

I cannot see how you can deduce that OG is revelling in that.