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Will Cummings bring Johnson down?

Nov 15, 2011
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Talking about Johnson's lies, the BBC are reporting that in the first 3 months of this year UK exporters paid £3.5 billion in tariffs to the EU. Remember when he cheered home his tariff free Brexit deal? £3.5 billion over 3 months is more than the UKs EU contribution pre Brexit.

Tariffs are due on UK exports to the EU when rules of origin are not met or exporters are unwilling or unable to do the mountain of paperwork and red tape Brexit was going to get rid of.
 
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themightykeithfear":6qurak43 said:
Talking about Johnson's lies, the BBC are reporting that in the first 3 months of this year UK exporters paid £3.5 billion in tariffs to the EU. Remember when he cheered home his tariff free Brexit deal? £3.5 billion over 3 months is more than the UKs EU contribution pre Brexit.

Tariffs are due on UK exports to the EU when rules of origin are not met or exporters are unwilling or unable to do the mountain of paperwork and red tape Brexit was going to get rid of.
But at least he's been cleared of breaking the ministerial code! ;) :lol:
 
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And quite rightly so I mean there must have been loads of people in Swilly who have been approached by anonymous benefactors with a £100k offering to give their council houses a facelift. Man of the people is bozo, he even says he'll pay for his own wedding next year!

The tariff story gets worse, while UK businesses have handed over £3.5 billion to the EU in tariffs in the first 3 months of this year - more than our pre Brexit EU contributions - we have collected from EU businesses err nothing, because we're still refusing to take back control of our borders and get Brexit done. When Johnson said f business, he bleddy meant it.
 

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themightykeithfear":1g67zcze said:
Talking about Johnson's lies, the BBC are reporting that in the first 3 months of this year UK exporters paid £3.5 billion in tariffs to the EU. Remember when he cheered home his tariff free Brexit deal? £3.5 billion over 3 months is more than the UKs EU contribution pre Brexit.

Tariffs are due on UK exports to the EU when rules of origin are not met or exporters are unwilling or unable to do the mountain of paperwork and red tape Brexit was going to get rid of.

No it doesn't it says that they paid tariffs on 3.5 billion of goods this is not saying they paid 3.5 billion. The EU have stated its 2.5 billion of goods and expect the tariffs to be mostly claimed back at a later date.
All just problems settling in whilst they get used to the new paperwork
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57282379
 
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It says millions have been paid in tariffs by U.K. companies and some of the costs may be recovered. No costs can be recovered where rules of origin are not met.

Small exporters can’t afford to employ customs experts to do the paperwork so have either given up or paid the tariffs. That’s not sustainable in the long run. Eg Milk and dairy exports are down 96%. Beef and lamb 40%. Eu exports overall down 23% unchanged with the rest of the world.

The paperwork isn’t going away and will double in July when it’s required on this side of the channel. It’s not just teething problems.
 
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signalspast":18jm3tl3 said:
themightykeithfear":18jm3tl3 said:
Talking about Johnson's lies, the BBC are reporting that in the first 3 months of this year UK exporters paid £3.5 billion in tariffs to the EU. Remember when he cheered home his tariff free Brexit deal? £3.5 billion over 3 months is more than the UKs EU contribution pre Brexit.

Tariffs are due on UK exports to the EU when rules of origin are not met or exporters are unwilling or unable to do the mountain of paperwork and red tape Brexit was going to get rid of.

No it doesn't it says that they paid tariffs on 3.5 billion of goods this is not saying they paid 3.5 billion. The EU have stated its 2.5 billion of goods and expect the tariffs to be mostly claimed back at a later date.
All just problems settling in whilst they get used to the new paperwork
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57282379

Classic TMKF. He's still reading something and interpreting it in his own way :roll: :doh:
 
Nov 15, 2011
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Interpret definition “explain the meaning of “ iSorry potty I’m me , explaining things in my own way is the only way I can do it!

And yes I did get the definition of the figure wrong, it’s good to admit when you’re wrong, better than furious name calling.
 

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So Matt Handcock is a minister of State for Health who didn't know that he shouldn't have shares in a company owned by his sister who were tendering for contracts to his department?

I was a fairly low grade Local Government Officer for 35 years. I knew that I would get sacked if I did anything like that.

So too bent to be a Minister or just too stupid?? Which is it Matty boy?? :think:

TBF I think he is capable of both. Versatile boy our Matty.
 
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Just to round this out, there have been 6 polls with fieldwork conducted after the Cummings testimony:

Survation - Con 43% (-1), Lab 33% (unch.)

Opinium - Con 42% (-2) , Lab 36% (+5)

YouGov (30/05) - Con 43% (-3), Lab 29% (+1)

Redfield Wilton - Con 45% (+2), Lab 34% (+1)

Savanta ComRes - Con 42% (-1), Lab 32% (-2)

YouGov (04/06) - Con 46% (+3), Lab 30% (+1)

So taking each companies latest polls the Tories have leads of 10, 6, 11, 10 and 16 points. The only poll showing any kind of impact is Opinium but that isn't reflected elsewhere so looks like an outlier. In fact, the three latest polls show the Tories extending their lead.

The answer therefore to the OP's question appears to be 'No'.

Boris untouchable??
 

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Well first statement of the day by the chairman is that Cummings hasn't provided the promised hard copies to substantiate his allegations.
 
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signalspast":uogsi2kq said:
Well first statement of the day by the chairman is that Cummings hasn't provided the promised hard copies to substantiate his allegations.

There is a school of thought amongst some Tory MPs (what I read this morning) that Cummings is going to wait until after Hancock has made his appearance before producing any evidence. If he did it beforehand, Hancock could try to wriggle out of it. If Cummings produces them after and if it contradicts anything Hancock says today, then that'll be career over for him.