The reasons why Rooney shouldn't go?

[Mr Gillingham]

WR has been dealt a very poor hand, coming in after IF. Now we have injuries to key players.
Some players who wouldn't get into any other squad in the league. Some of the players need to be shipped out asap. I can deal with getting beat, but the lack of basic skills and lack of effort, doesn't do it

Foster's task was way more difficult than Rooney. When Foster came in the club lost key loans. Fact is Foster's managed to win away from home

 

[Swllykid]

If you going to make Rooney accountable then shouldn't we start looking at the bigger picture.

Dewsnip - Head of Football. Would have a say in who Argyle are appointing. The strategy in terms of how Argyle would tackle the Championship l feel is totally wrong. One of the lowest budgets & he believes you can recruit in the manner we have in order to play open, expansive football. The away issue at Argyle has been going on for some time. We have neglected it, and now been faced to tackle it with an injury crisis.

Jimmy Dickinson - Head of recruitment. Whilst a manager/ coach has players they want to bring into the club l question the data analysis that is being used to identify that Palsson & Ogbeta are two competent defenders never mind at Championship level, l would say league one level. Last season we left ourselves short of cover in the forward areas. We also knew how poor our midfield was at the start of this season. We have neglected areas of the team & thar has meant any decent recruitment like Grimshaw is difficult to give credit for because they are surrounded by dross.

The backroom staff, including Nance. You have to question these people when lm watching a team dancing backwards towards their penalty area allowing opposition to score without being challenged. Someone like Nance might love the club & l appreciate everything he has done but we are now at a level you can't be sentimental. Do these coaches have the coaching skills etc to take very average players to perform at Championship level? I watch Argyle become a terrible passing side. When under pressure they can't find their own team mates. This has been happening since the Lowe era especially in away games. How can a championship team be this poor in possesion when their goal as a club us to be a attack minded, passing football team.

Finally, the board. They set out their stall. They wanted a club to play a certain brand of football. Schumacher had a mid table budget for league one & despite there being flaws he managed to mask over them by getting every ounce of what we were good at going forward. The board feel we can turn water into wine the higher up the leagues you go. The championship shows us that you need to drink alot of wine to actually think this is possible. Argyle have done wonderful things under Simon Hallett's tenure but they were always fighting a difficult battle at this level by not having the infrastructure in place to fall back on. They appointed inexperienced coaches & then asked them to play an attacking brand of football. It was easy to jump on the Foster bandwagon & make him scapegoat but maybe it showed how our footballing model is asking much from the financial resources we have.

I am not asking anyone of these people to be removed. I certainly want Simon Hallett to keep running our football club. Yet we an injury list that is ridiculous at the moment l think l wanted to add some perspective why Rooney isn't they only one who should get much of the blame. I think the club have taken their eye off the ball too.

I have said for a long time about the coaches ,Nancekeville is amateur at best, and the rest aren't up to championship standard.

 

[Cobi Budge]

Because whoever replaces him will, again, be picked by Neil Dewsnip and Simon Hallett. They’ll be inexperienced and not suited to managing a Championship football club with a low budget. We have this weird idea as a football club we’re so much smarter than everyone else, no, Steven Schumacher was smarter than everyone else, I don’t want him back but without him we’ve been a mess.

 

[Mark Smith]

I’d be very surprised if there were a pay-off clause in Rooney’s contract. He’s not in it for the money, he could afford to buy the club.

This is one thing in his favour, his own success and pride (also among his peers, which is important to him) are riding on this. After today’s game he said “I came to the club to improve it and still believe I can do that.” He genuinely wants to be a success as a manager. When he expresses his hurt I believe it.

Doesn’t mean he can do it, though.

 

[Eddie]

I have a hunch that money won't be a significant factor, but that's not based on any inside knowledge. Just a hunch.

I agree, with no inside knowledge either.

WR was clearly desperate to get a job at Championship level and, with his stats as a manager, he wasn't going to get a lot of offers. He presumably doesn't need the money.
I wouldn't be surprised if his contract were such that it would cost very little if SH decided that the time had come.

 

[GreenEden]

She's coming across brilliantly in the jungle !

 

[jimsing]

We knew that at the beginning of the season we would be in a relegation battle. Nothing has changed. We will still lose more than we win and draw. We need to get our points from clubs around us, anything we get from playing any of the top half of the division is a bonus.

At the moment we are keeping our heads above water, but we have been dealt a raw deal with the massive number of injuries that we have to key players. Houghton looks like another one.

Of course we have dipped in form, what else did you expect from mostly second team players?

We have no choice other than to continue to play the players that we have fit enough and hope against hope that we can get players back from injury, not add to them.

It wouldn't surprise me if we dropped to the bottom by January, but we will have our players back, hopefully, soon after and the window may relieve us of some of our frustrations.

We cannot afford to sack Rooney, and it is not his fault he has lost his best players.

 

[monkeywrench]

We knew that at the beginning of the season we would be in a relegation battle. Nothing has changed. We will still lose more than we win and draw. We need to get our points from clubs around us, anything we get from playing any of the top half of the division is a bonus.

At the moment we are keeping our heads above water, but we have been dealt a raw deal with the massive number of injuries that we have to key players. Houghton looks like another one.

Of course we have dipped in form, what else did you expect from mostly second team players?

We have no choice other than to continue to play the players that we have fit enough and hope against hope that we can get players back from injury, not add to them.

It wouldn't surprise me if we dropped to the bottom by January, but we will have our players back, hopefully, soon after and the window may relieve us of some of our frustrations.

We cannot afford to sack Rooney, and it is not his fault he has lost his best players.

That's how I see it.

 

[monty197306]

It is not Rooney's fault. Simon Hallett is simply not rich enough to give him, or anyone else, the resources needed to fund a Championship Club.
Indeed, I would be very happy if Rooney agreed to invest 50 million or so of his own money in the Club to help Simon out and take a majority stake, subject to Rooney's agreement to hire an experienced Championship manager to help him run the playing side and with Coleen running the business side.

Hallett making same mistakes a Stapleton did. Stapleton held power for far too

 

[Goody]

If we could get an experienced manager like Mowbray and he has money in January to buy many players, I'd say twist. As that is probably not the case, then stick with Rooney, but get an experienced coach in to support him and the existing team, preferably a defensive coach. Give Rooney cash for that defensive midfield enforcer and go all out for a big experienced centre half. Then it's probably his last chance at a Championship club for a while, so he has to do everything to keep us up.

 

[Ganna Green]

Butcher was playing Wealdstone, not Bristol City.

Butcher looked good for Wycombe today was what I said ? In the cup v Wealdstone

 

[semper crudus]

Quiet word with Mark Robins, and if he's up for it then time for Rooney to go.

 

[Ganna Green]

Butcher was playing Wealdstone, not Bristol City.

Just got your point which is a fair one yes

 

[The Doctor]

Just because there are problems elsewhere doesn’t mean that Rooney being HC is not a problem that needs resolution.

This is true, although resolving the Rooney issue (if that happens) won’t necessarily make enough of a difference to compensate for the other problems and in that case maybe it’s not actually worth spending the money to do so.

 

[greengodwin]

How many times must this be said ? Rooney brought Palsson in without any data analysis. Palsson has been the weakest link in our defence in three away hammerings - Weds, Norwich and Bristol C. He also played poorly in the Preston home game - 3 conceded. That WR - alone amongst 000s it seems - cant see that speaks volumes about his coaching ability, and especially his understanding of defensive set-ups.

For me, this alone is the reason he must go.

And why we can't allow him another transfer window....?