I think first 2 goals were lucky. Deflections/scrambles that led to goals. We very well may of not given outselves much.luck especially with the 3rd when Evans plays a criminal ball. I think Stockport were very good in possesion which Cleverley did nothing to combat. The goals were hard luck.
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The main thing was he got us scoring from corners again - that was a huge deal last season
I don’t see it like that. Individually the goals may have been bad luck but goals often are. It’s hard to score in football and for it to happen you need a series of things to go your way. The trick is to create the pressure and opportunities for that series of things to happen. Stockport did that, they may have scored some scrappy goals but also came close on other occasions and were denied by an excellent save. 3-1 was fair and if anything flattered us
And this is precisely why question marks still remain about Cleverley, or at the very least demonstrates he still has much to learn.
He found a system and style that worked for us last season which was great considering the diabolical start. However that was the past, a different squad make up and good managers look to constantly evolve, to find an edge, rather than steadfastly stick to a single approach.
This isn’t a knee jerk reaction to yesterday, I’ve worried throughout the summer about the makeup of the squad to consistently play a high tempo, high press 442 formation and yesterday demonstrated how easily it can be countered. I really want Tom to succeed, I believe there is some talent there but that counts for little if you can’t be more dynamic and tactically flexible.
I think the high press will work most of the time against most teams. Just not yesterday, against a very good Stockport. Keep the faith.
Yes, Stockport were the better team, but their first was a deflection, their second was created by a mistake by Mitchell, and their third was a good strike from the edge of the box.
Yes, we should have done better. Yes, we did have opportunities to score but didn't put them away.
Yes 1-3 was a fair reflection of the game, but it could have been different.
We got to grips with the game after 60/70 minutes when they took off their better players, who were the difference between the two sides, and we began to get some more control of the game.
For the first game of the season it is easy to say that Stockport will be amongst the top clubs come the end of the season, but the season is long and injuries can kick in, as we well know, and this is just the start of the campaign.
As long as our season doesn't continue as last year then we will improve as we go along. We are missing Tolaj badly but our players are not yet at their peak and time is on our side.
We shouldn't get too low when we lose and we shouldn't get too high when we win.
Stockport had the better of us yesterday but the league is not won or lost on the first day.
Yes, we should have done better. Yes, we did have opportunities to score but didn't put them away.
Yes 1-3 was a fair reflection of the game, but it could have been different.
We got to grips with the game after 60/70 minutes when they took off their better players, who were the difference between the two sides, and we began to get some more control of the game.
For the first game of the season it is easy to say that Stockport will be amongst the top clubs come the end of the season, but the season is long and injuries can kick in, as we well know, and this is just the start of the campaign.
As long as our season doesn't continue as last year then we will improve as we go along. We are missing Tolaj badly but our players are not yet at their peak and time is on our side.
We shouldn't get too low when we lose and we shouldn't get too high when we win.
Stockport had the better of us yesterday but the league is not won or lost on the first day.
I agree based on the play and their chances 3 - 1 flattened us. Maybe they created their luck and we did nothing to get ours. The only player that did was Cooper. He was aggresive out and stopped at least 2.
The voice of reason! And I think Cleverley has the smarts to work out how to use the players we have to their best advantage - at least I hope so!
If nothing else it proves the weaknesses in the squad early doors . Dampens down expectation both in the squad , fanbase etc and removes complacency . Even Harding said " they were better than we thought they'd be".
Isn't that what Tom himself said? We need a plan B for the better teams like Stockport where that won't work.
Stockport had 5 new players in their side yesterday (edited to add: and a new manager).
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Yes, we have all seen Argyle hard done by on numerous occasions. Yesterday was not one of them…
Here is why ultimately we should have taken back Schuey when we got the chance. Tom has improved over the last 12 months and I am still fully behind him. However, he still struggles with (a) how to set up differently for different sides and (b) how to make timely changes in game. These are both things Schuey is excellent at as we saw to our cost last season. Tom relies on hitting a formula that works and then riding it for as long as possible. Unfortunately it took him half a season to hit that formula and with the loss of Tolaj and Kane/Ralls it seems that the formula no longer works