Simon Hallett at fans forum (potential new investor on the way)

[flowchart]

Give Al Hajj a chance before writing him off.

 

[OriginalBBB]

Give Al Hajj a chance before writing him off.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Daz]

Give Al Hajj a chance before writing him off.

Exactly, way too early to write him off. We need a bit of grit at the moment due to injuries and Al Hajj clearly isn’t a grit player. What I’ve seen of him is very impressive and I’m sure he’ll play a big part this season.

 

[Graham Clark]

we already have a 'part absent' own at best as SH grapples with his us/uk tax -position do we really want to sell our sole to a US 'investor with all that will bring?

then again if yet another mug punter like SH is willing to splash another £20m plus bring it on!

i can enjoy the ride for £400 per season, why spend £20m plus ????? what a mug

With your knowledge of tax affairs surely you will understand that for a significant minority stake a US based investor has sizeable tax advantages of investing sizeable sums to us but 'small beer' to them in a UK based 'soccer' team, particularly one that has achieved substantial turnover growth (one of the best in the UK for a small company), significantly enhanced the size and quality of its asset base and perhaps most importantly of all a strong and proven executive. These is are important considerations for such investors as they look to drive up revenues further (from their US experience of doing so). Furthermore they like community based clubs with a strong identity - Argyle are certainly that particularly with the undervalued work the Community Trust do.

To say SH is a 'mug punter' is perhaps one of the most disrepective comments I have seen on these pages. He stepped in at a time when James Brent could not financially take the club any furthger and the completion of the grandstand is at risk. That 'step in' was based on his desire to give back to the city something they had given him - a very beneficial education they enabled him to achieve the financial success he has achieved. That he and Jane have chosen to do that has enabled us to escape League 2 and have a fighting chnace of achieving sustainability in the Championship. The glaring hole in achieving that is our player trdaing, which whilst still in its infancy, is the true route to better things with capacity / infrastructure restrictions. One Alex Scott (Bristol City to Bournemouth) at £25m equates to last year's turnover.

I think SH is limited to something like 49 days in the UK but I don't feel that his residency in the US impacts adversely upon us. He has an excellent executive to rely upon. As long as he remains the majority shareholder then we can be reassured. If the minority shraeholder becomes the majority one we will at least have time to experience his / her credentials and I don't think SAH will sell if he wasn't certain of the sort of continuity he would want.

We all want more investment. What is happening is the best on offer. It has taken eight months to get here. Not the actions of 'another mug punter'. The club is at a scale that it cannot be owned and managed by fans unless you want to bump along in the lower reaches of the EFL. This is the only logical and manageable route to go. I wish SH all the best in achieving this quantum leap step up.

 

[(I'm)Stranded]

With your knowledge of tax affairs surely you will understand that for a significant minority stake a US based investor has sizeable tax advantages of investing sizeable sums to us but 'small beer' to them in a UK based 'soccer' team, particularly one that has achieved substantial turnover growth (one of the best in the UK for a small company), significantly enhanced the size and quality of its asset base and perhaps most importantly of all a strong and proven executive. These is are important considerations for such investors as they look to drive up revenues further (from their US experience of doing so). Furthermore they like community based clubs with a strong identity - Argyle are certainly that particularly with the undervalued work the Community Trust do.

To say SH is a 'mug punter' is perhaps one of the most disrepective comments I have seen on these pages. He stepped in at a time when James Brent could not financially take the club any furthger and the completion of the grandstand is at risk. That 'step in' was based on his desire to give back to the city something they had given him - a very beneficial education they enabled him to achieve the financial success he has achieved. That he and Jane have chosen to do that has enabled us to escape League 2 and have a fighting chnace of achieving sustainability in the Championship. The glaring hole in achieving that is our player trdaing, which whilst still in its infancy, is the true route to better things with capacity / infrastructure restrictions. One Alex Scott (Bristol City to Bournemouth) at £25m equates to last year's turnover.

I think SH is limited to something like 49 days in the UK but I don't feel that his residency in the US impacts adversely upon us. He has an excellent executive to rely upon. As long as he remains the majority shareholder then we can be reassured. If the minority shraeholder becomes the majority one we will at least have time to experience his / her credentials and I don't think SAH will sell if he wasn't certain of the sort of continuity he would want.

We all want more investment. What is happening is the best on offer. It has taken eight months to get here. Not the actions of 'another mug punter'. The club is at a scale that it cannot be owned and managed by fans unless you want to bump along in the lower reaches of the EFL. This is the only logical and manageable route to go. I wish SH all the best in achieving this quantum leap step up.

Well said Graham. You can sense the anger and frustration coming through in your post. The post by Brechin Hedge was either a deliberate wind-up, or the stupidest Pasoti post ever.

 

[Balham Green]

With your knowledge of tax affairs surely you will understand that for a significant minority stake a US based investor has sizeable tax advantages of investing sizeable sums to us but 'small beer' to them in a UK based 'soccer' team, particularly one that has achieved substantial turnover growth (one of the best in the UK for a small company), significantly enhanced the size and quality of its asset base and perhaps most importantly of all a strong and proven executive. These is are important considerations for such investors as they look to drive up revenues further (from their US experience of doing so). Furthermore they like community based clubs with a strong identity - Argyle are certainly that particularly with the undervalued work the Community Trust do.

To say SH is a 'mug punter' is perhaps one of the most disrepective comments I have seen on these pages. He stepped in at a time when James Brent could not financially take the club any furthger and the completion of the grandstand is at risk. That 'step in' was based on his desire to give back to the city something they had given him - a very beneficial education they enabled him to achieve the financial success he has achieved. That he and Jane have chosen to do that has enabled us to escape League 2 and have a fighting chnace of achieving sustainability in the Championship. The glaring hole in achieving that is our player trdaing, which whilst still in its infancy, is the true route to better things with capacity / infrastructure restrictions. One Alex Scott (Bristol City to Bournemouth) at £25m equates to last year's turnover.

I think SH is limited to something like 49 days in the UK but I don't feel that his residency in the US impacts adversely upon us. He has an excellent executive to rely upon. As long as he remains the majority shareholder then we can be reassured. If the minority shraeholder becomes the majority one we will at least have time to experience his / her credentials and I don't think SAH will sell if he wasn't certain of the sort of continuity he would want.

We all want more investment. What is happening is the best on offer. It has taken eight months to get here. Not the actions of 'another mug punter'. The club is at a scale that it cannot be owned and managed by fans unless you want to bump along in the lower reaches of the EFL. This is the only logical and manageable route to go. I wish SH all the best in achieving this quantum leap step up.

All good. But SH took over when we were in L1

 

[Daz]

Well said Graham. You can sense the anger and frustration coming through in your post. The post by Brechin Hedge was either a deliberate wind-up, or the stupidest Pasoti post ever.

I’m guessing he’d had a beer as no one would post that nonsense even if they weirdly did believe it.

 

[Johnny Paradise]

With your knowledge of tax affairs surely you will understand that for a significant minority stake a US based investor has sizeable tax advantages of investing sizeable sums to us but 'small beer' to them in a UK based 'soccer' team, particularly one that has achieved substantial turnover growth (one of the best in the UK for a small company), significantly enhanced the size and quality of its asset base and perhaps most importantly of all a strong and proven executive. These is are important considerations for such investors as they look to drive up revenues further (from their US experience of doing so). Furthermore they like community based clubs with a strong identity - Argyle are certainly that particularly with the undervalued work the Community Trust do.

To say SH is a 'mug punter' is perhaps one of the most disrepective comments I have seen on these pages. He stepped in at a time when James Brent could not financially take the club any furthger and the completion of the grandstand is at risk. That 'step in' was based on his desire to give back to the city something they had given him - a very beneficial education they enabled him to achieve the financial success he has achieved. That he and Jane have chosen to do that has enabled us to escape League 2 and have a fighting chnace of achieving sustainability in the Championship. The glaring hole in achieving that is our player trdaing, which whilst still in its infancy, is the true route to better things with capacity / infrastructure restrictions. One Alex Scott (Bristol City to Bournemouth) at £25m equates to last year's turnover.

I think SH is limited to something like 49 days in the UK but I don't feel that his residency in the US impacts adversely upon us. He has an excellent executive to rely upon. As long as he remains the majority shareholder then we can be reassured. If the minority shraeholder becomes the majority one we will at least have time to experience his / her credentials and I don't think SAH will sell if he wasn't certain of the sort of continuity he would want.

We all want more investment. What is happening is the best on offer. It has taken eight months to get here. Not the actions of 'another mug punter'. The club is at a scale that it cannot be owned and managed by fans unless you want to bump along in the lower reaches of the EFL. This is the only logical and manageable route to go. I wish SH all the best in achieving this quantum leap step up.

Well said.

 

[Bananarette]

we already have a 'part absent' own at best as SH grapples with his us/uk tax -position do we really want to sell our sole to a US 'investor with all that will bring?

then again if yet another mug punter like SH is willing to splash another £20m plus bring it on!

i can enjoy the ride for £400 per season, why spend £20m plus ????? what a mug

Did you feel proud of yourself when you wrote that?
Would you stand up and say it to Simon Hallett’s face at a fan’s forum?
What a snide, nasty little man you must be.

 

[Sailor Green]

Did you feel proud of yourself when you wrote that?
Would you stand up and say it to Simon Hallett’s face at a fan’s forum?
What a snide, nasty little man you must be.

Obviously a closet Grecian fan. Go bury your head. What a complete kn—- you are.

 

[lyndhurst]

we already have a 'part absent' own at best as SH grapples with his us/uk tax -position do we really want to sell our sole to a US 'investor with all that will bring?

then again if yet another mug punter like SH is willing to splash another £20m plus bring it on!

i can enjoy the ride for £400 per season, why spend £20m plus ?????

You are an ignorant half-wit; and that's being generous.

 

[RuralGreen]

With your knowledge of tax affairs surely you will understand that for a significant minority stake a US based investor has sizeable tax advantages of investing sizeable sums to us but 'small beer' to them in a UK based 'soccer' team, particularly one that has achieved substantial turnover growth (one of the best in the UK for a small company), significantly enhanced the size and quality of its asset base and perhaps most importantly of all a strong and proven executive. These is are important considerations for such investors as they look to drive up revenues further (from their US experience of doing so). Furthermore they like community based clubs with a strong identity - Argyle are certainly that particularly with the undervalued work the Community Trust do.

To say SH is a 'mug punter' is perhaps one of the most disrepective comments I have seen on these pages. He stepped in at a time when James Brent could not financially take the club any furthger and the completion of the grandstand is at risk. That 'step in' was based on his desire to give back to the city something they had given him - a very beneficial education they enabled him to achieve the financial success he has achieved. That he and Jane have chosen to do that has enabled us to escape League 2 and have a fighting chnace of achieving sustainability in the Championship. The glaring hole in achieving that is our player trdaing, which whilst still in its infancy, is the true route to better things with capacity / infrastructure restrictions. One Alex Scott (Bristol City to Bournemouth) at £25m equates to last year's turnover.

I think SH is limited to something like 49 days in the UK but I don't feel that his residency in the US impacts adversely upon us. He has an excellent executive to rely upon. As long as he remains the majority shareholder then we can be reassured. If the minority shraeholder becomes the majority one we will at least have time to experience his / her credentials and I don't think SAH will sell if he wasn't certain of the sort of continuity he would want.

We all want more investment. What is happening is the best on offer. It has taken eight months to get here. Not the actions of 'another mug punter'. The club is at a scale that it cannot be owned and managed by fans unless you want to bump along in the lower reaches of the EFL. This is the only logical and manageable route to go. I wish SH all the best in achieving this quantum leap step up.

This!

Can always rely on Graham for a sensible and reasoned post!

 

[mutley marvel]

we already have a 'part absent' own at best as SH grapples with his us/uk tax -position do we really want to sell our sole to a US 'investor with all that will bring?

then again if yet another mug punter like SH is willing to splash another £20m plus bring it on!

i can enjoy the ride for £400 per season, why spend £20m plus ????? what a mug

A highly disrespectful posting
Without our Custodian's finances & dedication we would not have gotten to where we are now
He is as open & transparent as they come compared to other devious , underhand EFL Chairmen of other EFL clubs - Kieran Maguire is always complimentary when discussing SH
SH knows he can only take us so far & his comments on Monday suggest an Investor is in the pipeline in the next step in our evolving journey
We are a unique club & he is an unique Chairman
Fans of other clubs whose Chairmen's use their club as their own personal Cash Machines must look at us in envy
There is a saying "be careful what you wish for "

 

[monkeywrench]

We seem to be pinning an awful lot of hope on Baidoo signing and being the missing link in midfield. If we sign him he will undoubtably need time to adjust to the championship and our tactics. Seem to remember some thought Al Hajj was the answer to our problems and see how that’s turned out. Any signing is a gamble but we can’t afford to make many more mistakes.

I don't think you're correct. Just because we strengthen in one area doesn't mean that we won't strengthen in another. It a blatantly obvious to everyone where we are lacking.

 

[The Doctor]

You know what you are likely to be getting… which is exactly why other clubs are going for them and we need to be different. But a mix is ideal I think, and clearly we’ve had great success in general with foreign players historically. I believe Al Hajj will come good too.

And tell Brighton they shouldn’t have signed foreign players from leagues weaker than the Championship and Premier League, they’d be about £400m down in player transfer profit.

Not just Brighton of course. There are countless examples of players with not much pedigree making a big impact in the Championship.

I was watching a bit of the Burnley v Middlesbrough game last night and looked up the background of Emmanuel Latte Lath (23 goals in 48 appearances). He is from the Ivory Coast (2 caps, no goals) and although he was at Atalanta from the age of 17 he made zero senior appearances for them but 111 appearances on loan at 6 different lower-level Italian clubs that I have never heard of (and 0 at a seventh) over 5 seasons scoring just 16 goals. Then he went on loan to St Gallen in the Swiss Super League and scored 14 in 31 games in 2022-23. That final loan season at St Gallen was promising but I can imagine that if Argyle signed a player with that pedigree there would be plenty of dissenting voices and few expecting a 'goal-every-other-game' striker. Mind you, Middlesbrough must have thrown some money at him because he was signed on a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th. Having the financial wherewithal to offer that length of contract to an unproven player makes a lot of difference in being able to persuade them to sign.
(Ironically, it was just after he missed a really good chance that I looked him up. He was played clean through by an absolute peach of a first-time pass by one of the Middlesbrough midfielders - some chap called Azeez I think...)