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Thanks Christian for the explanation, this is most appreciated. But even more for putting the term “vomitory placement” into my vocabulary. Much obliged.For clarity, the combination of access flow, concourse facilities and vomitory placement are the primary factors behind the segregation point - rather than fan behaviour or policing/stewarding costs.
If we were to sell into block 21 and beyond for home fans, they would overcrowd the existing concourse space from block 20 backwards, as we have sold beyond the home segregation point.
In addition, there are other factors to consider, including access/egress, and general facilities underneath the Barn Park End, which houses, among other things, a classroom for the Community Trust.
With attendances as strong as they have been, research and planning is ongoing to find an appropriate solution to maximise our capacity potential, but we remain limited in the short term, unfortunately.
DC
The obvious solution - though it wouldn't go down well - would be to have the away end in the Demport End, then you could have ALL of the Barn Park End open to Home Fans. I said it wouldn't go down well lolFor clarity, the combination of access flow, concourse facilities and vomitory placement are the primary factors behind the segregation point - rather than fan behaviour or policing/stewarding costs.
If we were to sell into block 21 and beyond for home fans, they would overcrowd the existing concourse space from block 20 backwards, as we have sold beyond the home segregation point.
In addition, there are other factors to consider, including access/egress, and general facilities underneath the Barn Park End, which houses, among other things, a classroom for the Community Trust.
With attendances as strong as they have been, research and planning is ongoing to find an appropriate solution to maximise our capacity potential, but we remain limited in the short term, unfortunately.
DC
I'm with you on that one if we are in the Championship particularly.The obvious solution - though it wouldn't go down well - would be to have the away end in the Demport End, then you could have ALL of the Barn Park End open to Home Fans. I said it wouldn't go down well lol
How would that increase numbers? Surely the barrier would still be there but in the Spion Kop corner!The obvious solution - though it wouldn't go down well - would be to have the away end in the Demport End, then you could have ALL of the Barn Park End open to Home Fans. I said it wouldn't go down well lol
One advantage I guess is that segregation would be much less with the gap for the vehicles to drive into the ground already there and meaning probably only a small number of seats might be lost at the top corner of block 5?
I think you'll find the capacity in the Barn Park End is greater than that of the Devonport End. Today 2 blocks will be empty in the Barn Park End. IF we were in the Championship demand for away tickets would be greater with many clubs selling out. If segregation would be less and it was easier to separate home and away fans in the concourse underneath and to access respective seats then it makes a lot of sense and would increase capacity for a sell out. The policing of 2,000 or so away fans would be much easier. Without knowing the logistics compared to the BE End as far as concourse and vomitory issues go I don't know if it would be beneficial or not though.So you think we should give the away fans five blocks rather than three reducing the home fan capacity further by about 1000?
It’ll be fine. It was much windier than this a couple of seasons ago against Crewe.This is going to be farcical judging by just stepping out into the 'breeze'
Good idea.Think it’s been discussed before.The obvious solution - though it wouldn't go down well - would be to have the away end in the Demport End, then you could have ALL of the Barn Park End open to Home Fans. I said it wouldn't go down well lol
You would only need to have the bit above the tunnel closed off.How would that increase numbers? Surely the barrier would still be there but in the Spion Kop corner!