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Plymouth Argyle Transfer Rumour Round-up

Emu

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Knibbsworth":2p4xinwl said:
JannerinCardiff":2p4xinwl said:
Cult Of Personality":2p4xinwl said:
We have Ennis Hardie and Jephcott. Bowman would not of been first choice. So no point in signing him

Out of that list Bowman would have been 4th choice. We ultimately need that 4th striker to be a full on target man., A guy that doesn’t just compete to win headers but someone who wins aerial battles regularly and has good hold up skills to keep us higher up the pitch and bring our other quicker and more skilful players into the game. And if it’s a permanent signing it needs to be someone who is capable of still be effective in the division above in what they do. I can see an older wily player on a free transfer or maybe a tall younger player from a higher division on loan.


Why do we need a target man?
Do Liverpool or Man City have a specialist flick on merchant?

Lowe wasted time and energy messing around with Nouble.
Football has moved on, Argyle don’t play like that, and don’t want to play like that.

If we need a ball holding up in any case, I haven’t seen many better than Niall Ennis this season.

I think our 4th choice striker needs to be adept in another position, such as Byron Moore. In the side to offer cover up front, but with a skill set to bring to another position.

This is League 1 not the Premier League.
 
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HC Green":3ge6lvmq said:
As players cant officially join their new clubs until the 1st July after their existing contracts run out on the 30th June, can they join up with their new Club for preseason training before then as they are still being paid by their old club and there must be an issue over things like employers liability insurance?

I would think there would be an easy solution to that contractual problem ,if indeed it was a problem . However ,if you need clarification I suggest you contact Mr D Adams at Bradford City Football Club , since they begin pre season training on Monday 28th June he should be able to help you .
 
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Pogleswoody":1suthh3a said:
Poolepilgrim":1suthh3a said:
Bowman has signed for Shrewsbury.

When the mighty Shrews come knocking, what chance do we have?? :lol:

Shrewsbury have also signed central defenders Bennett and Pennington for this level they are really good players, I am amazed they signed Bennett, perhaps they have money?
 
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ealinggreen":jckstntf said:
Pogleswoody":jckstntf said:
Poolepilgrim":jckstntf said:
Bowman has signed for Shrewsbury.

When the mighty Shrews come knocking, what chance do we have?? :lol:

Shrewsbury have also signed central defenders Bennett and Pennington for this level they are really good players, I am amazed they signed Bennett, perhaps they have money?

They had a mass clear-out so have space in their budget to sign lots of players. That said, they've obviously got money as by all accounts they've made an offer to Chuks Aneke that matches his Charlton wages.
 

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I wonder if we were in for Cameron Jerome? Just signed for Luton from MK Dons and Nathan Jones said that he was "odds on to sign for someone else but we turned him" :shock:

That’s just a manager over hyping.

That’s championship football and a player who wouldn’t have to relocate. No brainier for the player.
 
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Emu":9j4ion1n said:
Knibbsworth":9j4ion1n said:
JannerinCardiff":9j4ion1n said:
Cult Of Personality":9j4ion1n said:
We have Ennis Hardie and Jephcott. Bowman would not of been first choice. So no point in signing him

Out of that list Bowman would have been 4th choice. We ultimately need that 4th striker to be a full on target man., A guy that doesn’t just compete to win headers but someone who wins aerial battles regularly and has good hold up skills to keep us higher up the pitch and bring our other quicker and more skilful players into the game. And if it’s a permanent signing it needs to be someone who is capable of still be effective in the division above in what they do. I can see an older wily player on a free transfer or maybe a tall younger player from a higher division on loan.


Why do we need a target man?
Do Liverpool or Man City have a specialist flick on merchant?

Lowe wasted time and energy messing around with Nouble.
Football has moved on, Argyle don’t play like that, and don’t want to play like that.

If we need a ball holding up in any case, I haven’t seen many better than Niall Ennis this season.

I think our 4th choice striker needs to be adept in another position, such as Byron Moore. In the side to offer cover up front, but with a skill set to bring to another position.

This is League 1 not the Premier League.

How many times did a target man come off the bench and give us problems last season? Or even start and give us problems.

The game has moved on. Nouble was a waste of money and I'd rather Argyle not waste what budget we have on a big fella for something different.

You say League One is not the Premier League but the style of football follows the same patterns, it all drips down. And I rarely see the top clubs throw on a 6' 4" bruiser, launch high balls and hope for the best, it is a football throwback.
 
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Whilst we may not need an out and out target man , I think we do need a strong experienced mobile pressing forward to add to the three younger strikers at the club , I think Nouble was brought to the club to perform that role unfortunately despite him being big , strong and quite quick he wasn't good enough to perform that role . Adding a more powerful , aggressive forward to the squad , would I believe help those younger strikers and allow us to have a more direct plan B when required.
 
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Knibbsworth":2y8zh046 said:
Emu":2y8zh046 said:
Knibbsworth":2y8zh046 said:
JannerinCardiff":2y8zh046 said:
Cult Of Personality":2y8zh046 said:
We have Ennis Hardie and Jephcott. Bowman would not of been first choice. So no point in signing him

Out of that list Bowman would have been 4th choice. We ultimately need that 4th striker to be a full on target man., A guy that doesn’t just compete to win headers but someone who wins aerial battles regularly and has good hold up skills to keep us higher up the pitch and bring our other quicker and more skilful players into the game. And if it’s a permanent signing it needs to be someone who is capable of still be effective in the division above in what they do. I can see an older wily player on a free transfer or maybe a tall younger player from a higher division on loan.


Why do we need a target man?
Do Liverpool or Man City have a specialist flick on merchant?

Lowe wasted time and energy messing around with Nouble.
Football has moved on, Argyle don’t play like that, and don’t want to play like that.

If we need a ball holding up in any case, I haven’t seen many better than Niall Ennis this season.

I think our 4th choice striker needs to be adept in another position, such as Byron Moore. In the side to offer cover up front, but with a skill set to bring to another position.

This is League 1 not the Premier League.

How many times did a target man come off the bench and give us problems last season? Or even start and give us problems.

The game has moved on. Nouble was a waste of money and I'd rather Argyle not waste what budget we have on a big fella for something different.

You say League One is not the Premier League but the style of football follows the same patterns, it all drips down. And I rarely see the top clubs throw on a 6' 4" bruiser, launch high balls and hope for the best, it is a football throwback.

Unless of course you can sign a big target man who has a good touch, holds the ball up well is quick and runs in behind teams.
 
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I think we'd really benefit from bringing in an experienced forward who has been there and bought the t-shirt. Someone who knows how to see a game out and teach our three young forwards a thing or two.

And before anyone says it, I know we tried that with Nouble last season but obviously we didn't get the right man ability wise.
 

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I really can't see how a big man winning headers in the opposition box, either goal attempts or assists, can go out of fashion?
Or be not 'modern' enough?
It is a physical act in a game, a way that your player 'beats' an opponent, gains an advantage.
You can't just decide: we aren't going to do that anymore and we don't want our opponents doing it either?? Can you? :think:
 
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Pogleswoody":3svesi0c said:
I really can't see how a big man winning headers in the opposition box, either goal attempts or assists, can go out of fashion?
Or be not 'modern' enough?
It is a physical act in a game, a way that your player 'beats' an opponent, gains an advantage.
You can't just decide: we aren't going to do that anymore and we don't want our opponents doing it either?? Can you? :think:

Totally agree ! We already know we are going to facing several ‘long ball’ teams next season.Gillingham, Pompey, Shrewsbury and several of the promoted sides may well go long. In total there may be around 6. So we can’t just turn up in our lounge slippers ( slight exaggeration there )and try to pass the thing around. Although I like Lowe and want him to succeed, he appears to be very naive at times. We needs some big units right down the spine of the side- who can also
Play football. That way we can vary the tactics and play according to the opposition and conditions.
 
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Pogleswoody":fzystcuv said:
I really can't see how a big man winning headers in the opposition box, either goal attempts or assists, can go out of fashion?
Or be not 'modern' enough?
It is a physical act in a game, a way that your player 'beats' an opponent, gains an advantage.
You can't just decide: we aren't going to do that anymore and we don't want our opponents doing it either?? Can you? :think:


As i said to Emu, name me one striker that regularly does any of that in the modern game? At League One level or Premier League level.

Your first sentence says it all, you equate winning headers with assists and shots on target. Quite often target men are involved in hold up play 30 yards out of goal, they don't have the pace to be involved in the next phase of play. Are you happy with that, or do you want someone like Niall Ennis who does have the pace and stamina to be involved in the next phase? I know who I'd prefer.
 
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Knibbsworth":1kph1erc said:
Pogleswoody":1kph1erc said:
I really can't see how a big man winning headers in the opposition box, either goal attempts or assists, can go out of fashion?
Or be not 'modern' enough?
It is a physical act in a game, a way that your player 'beats' an opponent, gains an advantage.
You can't just decide: we aren't going to do that anymore and we don't want our opponents doing it either?? Can you? :think:


As i said to Emu, name me one striker that regularly does any of that in the modern game? At League One level or Premier League level.

Your first sentence says it all, you equate winning headers with assists and shots on target. Quite often target men are involved in hold up play 30 yards out of goal, they don't have the pace to be involved in the next phase of play. Are you happy with that, or do you want someone like Niall Ennis who does have the pace and stamina to be involved in the next phase? I know who I'd prefer.

The double barrelled Everton striker in the England squad team is a good example of one?
 
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Quite often target men are involved in hold up play 30 yards out of goal, they don't have the pace to be involved in the next phase of play. Are you happy with that, or do you want someone like Niall Ennis who does have the pace and stamina to be involved in the next phase? I know who I'd prefer.[/quote]

So you want a target man with pace Knibsy ?

“ somebody who holds the ball up well and has a good touch for a big man- somebody who runs hard, runs quick and runs in behind teams”

Not my words by the way. Those are from Shrewsbury manager Steve Cotterill, describing new signing Ryan Bowman
( Shropshire Star 17 June).