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Next Labour Leader

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andyr1963

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Keyham Pilgrim":16qqsfbe said:
This is why I think the Labour party well probably split. The membership that support Corbyn is deluded if they think the far left would ever get elected in this country especially since they have been wiped out in Scotland.

The primary reason for the Scottish Labour collapse was they were not Socialist enough. :doh:
 
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andyr1963

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STILL waiting for Angela Eagles to step up to challenge Corbyn. Very patient isn't she.
 
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andyr1963

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STILL waiting for the challenge to materialise.

Thought perhaps there was a "bombshell" within the Chilcot report that for whatever reason would influenced a decision not to challenge the leadership yet. Still nothing.

Will the current MP's so passionately against the leader dare to leave the grassroots / Corbyn and form their own left / centerist party?

Anyone got a theory why there has been no challenge, only threats?
 
Sep 30, 2004
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andyr1963":1wqxtbye said:
STILL waiting for the challenge to materialise.

Thought perhaps there was a "bombshell" within the Chilcot report that for whatever reason would influenced a decision not to challenge the leadership yet. Still nothing.

Will the current MP's so passionately against the leader dare to leave the grassroots / Corbyn and form their own left / centerist party?
Anyone got a theory why there has been no challenge, only threats?

Angela Eagles own constituency have overwhelmingly voted to support Corbyn,that doesn't help her challenge.
 
Nov 11, 2012
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I think the simple answer is they know they will lose. They seem to be trying to ease him out without splitting the party but I am not sure that is possible.
 
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andyr1963

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gandalf_the_green":eipgqu3g said:
andyr1963":eipgqu3g said:
STILL waiting for the challenge to materialise.

Thought perhaps there was a "bombshell" within the Chilcot report that for whatever reason would influenced a decision not to challenge the leadership yet. Still nothing.

Will the current MP's so passionately against the leader dare to leave the grassroots / Corbyn and form their own left / centerist party?
Anyone got a theory why there has been no challenge, only threats?

Angela Eagles own constituency have overwhelmingly voted to support Corbyn,that doesn't help her challenge.

Self interest then, rather than the benefit of Party / Country.
In which case was she foolish enough to be put up to it by Whips? Labour MP's are selected not by local choice. Is it possible for local grass roots supporters to oust an elected MP?
 
Sep 30, 2004
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andyr1963":1jq4zesp said:
STILL waiting for the challenge to materialise.

Thought perhaps there was a "bombshell" within the Chilcot report that for whatever reason would influenced a decision not to challenge the leadership yet. Still nothing.

Will the current MP's so passionately against the leader dare to leave the grassroots / Corbyn and form their own left / centerist party?

Anyone got a theory why there has been no challenge, only threats?

The challenge has just materialised.
 
Jul 3, 2014
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Bere Alston
gandalf_the_green":2yu2xdgm said:
andyr1963":2yu2xdgm said:
STILL waiting for the challenge to materialise.

Thought perhaps there was a "bombshell" within the Chilcot report that for whatever reason would influenced a decision not to challenge the leadership yet. Still nothing.

Will the current MP's so passionately against the leader dare to leave the grassroots / Corbyn and form their own left / centerist party?

Anyone got a theory why there has been no challenge, only threats?

The challenge has just materialised.


Now I guess we will find out which interpretation of the nomination rules is correct.
 
Oct 9, 2003
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YouGov poll suggests members would vote convincingly for Corbyn over Eagles - and even Watson or Jarvis were they to stand. The question is does he legally need 51 nominations from MPs/MEPs ? On the Andrew Marr show, Corbyn certainly felt that as Leader he didn't and would therefore be on the ballot paper.
 
Jul 3, 2014
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Frank_Butcher":35tacptp said:
YouGov poll suggests members would vote convincingly for Corbyn over Eagles - and even Watson or Jarvis were they to stand. The question is does he legally need 51 nominations from MPs/MEPs ? On the Andrew Marr show, Corbyn certainly felt that as Leader he didn't and would therefore be on the ballot paper.


Hopefully we'll find out this week how it will work, i he's not i guess a large number of Labour members follow him and the 35ish MP's who support him out the door and into a new party.

Or if he is on the ballot and wins then I assume the majority of MP's and those who are more central of the membership have an SDP moment and also leave to form their own party (the official opposition by numbers I guess?).
 
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andyr1963

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Hurrah, challenge set.

Oh no hang on a minute, challenge is going to be on Monday. :lol:

Just as well the other lot are having their own issues regarding leadership.

I have never known so much political chaos. I wonder, in the outside world are we beginning to look like a "banana republic"?
 
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andyr1963":2s132y1l said:
Hurrah, challenge set.

Oh no hang on a minute, challenge is going to be on Monday. :lol:

Just as well the other lot are having their own issues regarding leadership.

I have never known so much political chaos. I wonder, in the outside world are we beginning to look like a "banana republic"?

The fact that our leaders are accountable to their parties and to the public means that it's the very opposite to a banana republic. Not an ideal situation by any means, but a sophisticated free democracy like ours keeps moving along regardless.