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Quinny":1nli20lf said:
Cameron has crossed one of those unwritten rules of the House by telling Corbyn to go ... and probably did nothing more than make Corbyn even less likely to resign.
Yes but Macaroon is now in the Thatcher 'I'm enjoying this' stage of leadership so I can see a few more bliddy noses and savaged sheep over the next two months!
 
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If they don't get rid of him, the party will split. He is planning (upon reelection) to let party members vote on policy.

The idea that the bulk of the British public will vote for the kind of corduroy-wearing, flag of Stalin-waving Marxism that is only found in student unions, is ludicrous.

Still, you have to admire him to sticking to his beliefs down the years, no matter how ridiculous they are.
 
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Angela Eagle has absolutely no chance against Corbyn. Her own CLP are pro Corbyn, but more than that she voted for the Iraq war and that is anathema to grassroots labour members nowdays.
 
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Is it just me who thinks that the old militant tendency of the Labour party who have been kept under control for over thirty years are quite happy for a civil war to drive the Blairites out of the Labour party. It won't matter to them that to most people they well be unelectable because in their minds they are right. No good for the country not to have a credible opposition.
 
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Of course, they don't won't actual power they just think their view of the world is the right one and no one is going to persuade them otherwise. It's like those Japanese soldiers stranded on Pacific islands who don't know the war is over.

In a way they are right, once the gloss of Tony Blair wore off what is the point of a Labour party who are an imitation of the Conservative Centre/Left and still can't get into power? The wider population won't vote for them, but they will have a voice outside the ghetto of the pages of the Socialist Worker.

The Chillcot report next week will further tarnish the Labour Party - apart from, funnily enough, old Comrade Corbyn.

Interesting times.
 
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Except the old militant tendency was back in the 80's and the vast majority of new members and momentum people (I'm not either of those by the way) am weren't even born then. Corbyn has appealed to all age groups. Never the less, the fundamental message that has got me is one of democracy, my vote 9 months ago seems to have been completely shoved to the side for an opportunist moment that most of the PLP have been waiting for ever since he won the leadership election.
 
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Can't argue with that. I think that's why he's staying on.

The thing is, those MPs will feel they represent their constituents rather than the party membership. They will feel that's valid and consider many new members to be arrivistes from extreme left parties.
 
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In a nutshell, Corbyn seems to think that he only has to appeal to the grassroots membership, he forgets he has to appeal to the electorate.

At least under Miliband the Labour Party had a professional image. Corbyn is turning the party into a fringe protest group.

I'm just right of centre and I've never voted for Labour & probably never will, but I still think that you need an effective left of centre opposition to give some balance to British politics...and of course to hold the government to account.

Corbyn trying to cling on to his untenable position isn't just bad for Labour, it's bad for Britain.
 
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Cobi Budge.":3nssw97f said:
In a nutshell, Corbyn seems to think that he only has to appeal to the grassroots membership, he forgets he has to appeal to the electorate.

At least under Miliband the Labour Party had a professional image. Corbyn is turning the party into a fringe protest group.

I'm just right of centre and I've never voted for Labour & probably never will, but I still think that you need an effective left of centre opposition to give some balance to British politics...and of course to hold the government to account.

Corbyn trying to cling on to his untenable position isn't just bad for Labour, it's bad for Britain.

It is fantastic entertainment, though. :lol:
 
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So now there's the Parliamentary Labour Party and the Constituency Labour Party?

How long before it's the British People's Front and the People's front of Britain?