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Oct 9, 2003
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Lots of commentary about how Labour has to decide what it stands for, but to me the choice is a stark one.

- Stick to principled beliefs, combat the SNP by moving to the left - but risk being unelectable in England.
- Return to Blairism, centrist policies - become electable but hold your nose while you're doing it.

And the party commentators seem split on which way to go.
 
Feb 24, 2008
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I think the Labour Party needs to move to the left. It looks like some people don't think Labour offer enough of an alternative so were put off voting for them. The Lib Dems were always going to struggle, whilst the Green Party are perhaps a step too far to the left for most.

Purely in my opinion, we are starting to see a divide form and as the Government moves right this week, we need a larger left wing presence in opposition.
 
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The new leader needs to be different to Ed Milliband in order to be more appealing to Murdoch and Lord Rothermere. So he or she would need to be anti EU for the Sun and the Times. But what would they need to be more appealing to the Daily Mail? ......... oh yeah! I know.
 

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People always so quick to deride the right wing or centre press but what about the left wing bias of the Mirror, Independent, Guardian, the BBC etc?
 

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forever green":terrejmm said:
Has to be Chucka umunna.


I like him because: He gets knocked down, but he gets up again. No, you're never gonna keep him down! :coat:

Andy Burnham - should have got it in 2010 but lost out to the Bros fans!
 
Oct 20, 2010
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Got to be jarvis for me having and mbe and a good ex forces record will do wonders I think. No kind of Blairite for me, need to stick and go more to socialist morals and principles.

Saw someone saw BBC are left wing I can't have that not 100% but take question time I'm pretty sure as I say not 100% but that 2 of the panelists that have been on the most times are conservatives and the 3rd Mr farage
 
May 22, 2006
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I did a search for "bbc right wing bias"; here are the first two results:

BBC is biased toward the left, study finds - Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk › Culture › TV and Radio › BBC
11 Aug 2013 - The BBC is twice as likely to cover left-wing policy proposals than those that are right-wing, a study has found.

It's the BBC's rightwing bias that is the threat to democracy ...
http://www.theguardian.com › Opinion › BBC
17 Mar 2014 - Owen Jones: The claim of 'liberal bias' is a clever fairytale that allows the right to police the corporation and set the wider political agenda.

People love to act as if they're the poor, hard-done-by, silenced "minority". Especially people on the internet.
 
Apr 15, 2008
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Good post Owen. I cannot, for the life of me, detect any bias at all from bbc news.

The Telegraph and Guardian are both sides of the same coin. Outdated rags both of them. Owen Jones in particular is 2 steps from becoming David Icke.
 
Oct 9, 2003
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The Guardian actually floats between Labour and LDs.

On balance there is more right-wing press. I think the BBC they were quite heavily weighted to Labour during the Blair years (Lance Price actually left the BBC to become a New Labour adviser), but they are very conscious of any bias these days - despite Farage's protestations.
 
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crownhillpilgrim":i3c5yqne said:
Good post Owen. I cannot, for the life of me, detect any bias at all from bbc news.

The Telegraph and Guardian are both sides of the same coin. Outdated rags both of them. Owen Jones in particular is 2 steps from becoming David Icke.

Owen Jones close to David icke lol you've just confirmed your posts are not trust worthy
 
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The BBC is extremely careful to be seen as neatral. But the zealots used to the fawning praise of the biased rags convince themselves that any degree of scrutiny is evidence of conspiracy and bias.
 
Apr 15, 2008
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pafcstafford":rvovenec said:
crownhillpilgrim":rvovenec said:
Good post Owen. I cannot, for the life of me, detect any bias at all from bbc news.

The Telegraph and Guardian are both sides of the same coin. Outdated rags both of them. Owen Jones in particular is 2 steps from becoming David Icke.

Owen Jones close to David icke lol you've just confirmed your posts are not trust worthy

Ok, it's an exaggeration.... though, it's difficult not tom laugh at a man who was convinced that Russell Brand was going to win the young vote for Labour and reported on how the Conservatives were planning a coup (with no evidence). At least he isn't as ludicrous as Polly Toynbee... my favourite loony Polly-ism was when she suggested that the Police should be disbanded. :lol:
 
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crownhillpilgrim":3pkrgpgg said:
pafcstafford":3pkrgpgg said:
crownhillpilgrim":3pkrgpgg said:
Good post Owen. I cannot, for the life of me, detect any bias at all from bbc news.

The Telegraph and Guardian are both sides of the same coin. Outdated rags both of them. Owen Jones in particular is 2 steps from becoming David Icke.

Owen Jones close to David icke lol you've just confirmed your posts are not trust worthy

Ok, it's an exaggeration.... though, it's difficult not tom laugh at a man who was convinced that Russell Brand was going to win the young vote for Labour and reported on how the Conservatives were planning a coup (with no evidence). At least he isn't as ludicrous as Polly Toynbee... my favourite loony Polly-ism was when she suggested that the Police should be disbanded. :lol:

I agree. They never wrote a good tune after "Every Breath You Take".