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Chris Hughton has been sacked by Forest- who would be mad enough to take the managers hot seat - especially with their hiring & firing policy- Chris Hughton was only the manager for 11 months
Tbh it's a blessing in disguise for Hughton.. A club in meltdown with poor ownership. He will get a job quick enough because of his success in the past. Who the hell would want the Forest jump. Another "big" team in league 1 next season.
 
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Sorry for Chris Hughton - good manager. He should have taken the Bristol City job when he had the chance. Forest a big club though and they won’t be short of applicants. Maybe Chris Wilder
 
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I don't agree.

Pulis was attempting to turn us around.

The job was not going to be easy, it wasn't going to be quick. Patience was needed and the season was not going to be one to remember.

Survival was the name of the game.

He stopped us from losing every game. It wasn't pretty, but it wasn't meant to be.

He first got rid of the dead wood. Bare bones so he could add to the squad.

I thought he was doing a great job and was waiting for his incomings to enrich the team and get us back on an even keel.

But the pull of Stoke City was too strong.

He did leave the Club in a very good position for the next manager, and there is no doubt in my mind that Ian Holloway profited from what Pulis had done. Usually a new manager first has to weed out the players who he didn't want to be there, but that was already done for him.

Pulis went on to better things, and Holloway was able to start to bring success to the Club.

I thank Pulis for what he did. Had he not done that, then it was likely, in my opinion, that we were heading for a relegation season and Holloway would not have been interested in a Club heading towards Div 1.

I really thought it was a pull for Holloway to make his mark on the Club. Half of the job had already been done and all he had to do was bring in players and make the team his own.
That's how I remember it as well, Jimsing
 

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League 1 is a graveyard of premier league clubs in years gone by - you only have to look at Sunderland , Ipswich & Portsmouth to see how hard it is to get out of the league- if you do not obtain a top 2 spot you are not guaranteed to get promoted via the playoffs- you only have to look at Sunderland last year who lost in the playoff phrases

Yes these teams can be deemed big fish in a somewhat middle size pool but if you do not deliver consistently it is not a given you will get promoted

From the masterclass we gave Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday - i did not see anything in Sheffield Wednesday that made me think they will be there or there about the top 6 come the business end of the season- yes they have Barry Bannan but one man does not make a team & Darren Moore certainly has a lot of work on his plate to get them to where the fans expectations lie
I saw one team that was more than the sum of its parts and one that was much less.
 
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I don't agree.

Pulis was attempting to turn us around.

The job was not going to be easy, it wasn't going to be quick. Patience was needed and the season was not going to be one to remember.

Survival was the name of the game.

He stopped us from losing every game. It wasn't pretty, but it wasn't meant to be.

He first got rid of the dead wood. Bare bones so he could add to the squad.

I thought he was doing a great job and was waiting for his incomings to enrich the team and get us back on an even keel.

But the pull of Stoke City was too strong.

He did leave the Club in a very good position for the next manager, and there is no doubt in my mind that Ian Holloway profited from what Pulis had done. Usually a new manager first has to weed out the players who he didn't want to be there, but that was already done for him.

Pulis went on to better things, and Holloway was able to start to bring success to the Club.

I thank Pulis for what he did. Had he not done that, then it was likely, in my opinion, that we were heading for a relegation season and Holloway would not have been interested in a Club heading towards Div 1.

I really thought it was a pull for Holloway to make his mark on the Club. Half of the job had already been done and all he had to do was bring in players and make the team his own.
Totally agree. I was very unimpressed when Pulis was named manager but he did hell of a job in turning around a disorganised rabble. He did it without spending any money and reinforcing the spine of the team with Ward, Jarrett and then Nalis and Pericard. To get us to twelfth that year was quite remarkable.
 
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And without Pulis steadying the ship we wouldn’t have had the success we did with Holloway. Pulis very underrated for what he did with us. Top bloke and top manager.
 
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And without Pulis steadying the ship we wouldn’t have had the success we did with Holloway. Pulis very underrated for what he did with us. Top bloke and top manager.
Maybe he was but he’s yesterday’s man. Supporters don’t want to put up with his terrible football anymore. Has he figured at all in Forest’s thoughts?
 
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There is some real tripe written and spoken about former managers, blaming their styles, wrong formation, boring football. Often (as pointed out by Pulis is many an interview) you inherit a squad and have to cut your cloth accordingly. No point trying to play heyday Barcelona football unless you have the right players.
If Sean Dyce and Pep did a job swap, i'm sure as hell Dyce wouldn't suddenly ditch everyone under 5'10" - he'd having them playing good stuff. By the same token Pep wouldn't be asking Ashley Barnes to play pass and move.

When Pulis came to us, we were absolutely dead and buried with a dire squad lacking in options, he somehow not only kept to us up, we finished 13th. When he was appointed he was asked to keep us up, not entertain the fans, not play one touch football, but keep us up. For that he should always be applauded. He was never a long term answer or solution, but was given a task and completed it.

For the record as an individual i'm not a fan of his at all, for many a reason one of which was the total disregard he showed when Aaron Ramsey had his leg broke at Stoke, but on what he did for Argyle, i can only see him as a success, even if it was a boring success.
 

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There is some real tripe written and spoken about former managers, blaming their styles, wrong formation, boring football. Often (as pointed out by Pulis is many an interview) you inherit a squad and have to cut your cloth accordingly. No point trying to play heyday Barcelona football unless you have the right players.
If Sean Dyce and Pep did a job swap, i'm sure as hell Dyce wouldn't suddenly ditch everyone under 5'10" - he'd having them playing good stuff. By the same token Pep wouldn't be asking Ashley Barnes to play pass and move.

When Pulis came to us, we were absolutely dead and buried with a dire squad lacking in options, he somehow not only kept to us up, we finished 13th. When he was appointed he was asked to keep us up, not entertain the fans, not play one touch football, but keep us up. For that he should always be applauded. He was never a long term answer or solution, but was given a task and completed it.

For the record as an individual i'm not a fan of his at all, for many a reason one of which was the total disregard he showed when Aaron Ramsey had his leg broke at Stoke, but on what he did for Argyle, i can only see him as a success, even if it was a boring success.
Never a truer word said. I was on a course with his nephew many years ago and he said Pulis knew he wasn't going to stay long and used Argyle as a stop gap "to pay the bills" as he knew his mate Peter Coates was in line to buy Stoke and had been told the manager's job was his. Awful football but did what he was asked to do.
 

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Anyway, as the op says, ‘how long’?
At least, to the end of his current contract.
 
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I remember the turn around and solidifying Pulis brought. Highlighted by Sparksy letting slip that one of the players (possibly Wotton) saying how they'd learnt more and understood their rolesin the first morning of training before boarding the team bus than they had in all the season before then.

Some of his football here was ok to watch. The fact he was only here temporarily (apparently knowing he would be going) yet managed to sort us out on the pitch is testament to his abilities as a coach to produce results. Time and style have since moved on and his style wouldn't win many admirers now, but there's no denying he had a spell as the go to man for a lot of chairmen.
 

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Maybe he was but he’s yesterday’s man. Supporters don’t want to put up with his terrible football anymore. Has he figured at all in Forest’s thoughts?
He probably won't have, but if they want a manager to keep them up there are few better.
There is some real tripe written and spoken about former managers, blaming their styles, wrong formation, boring football. Often (as pointed out by Pulis is many an interview) you inherit a squad and have to cut your cloth accordingly. No point trying to play heyday Barcelona football unless you have the right players.
If Sean Dyce and Pep did a job swap, i'm sure as hell Dyce wouldn't suddenly ditch everyone under 5'10" - he'd having them playing good stuff. By the same token Pep wouldn't be asking Ashley Barnes to play pass and move.
I think the flaw in this hypothetical scenario is that Pep Guardiola would never take a job like the one at Burnley. He would only ever manage a team with the financial basis to rapidly and dramatically overhaul the playing squad to meet his requirements. Pep wouldn't be asking Ashley Barnes to play pass and move because he wouldn't put himself in a position where he had to ask Ashley Barnes anything at all!
 
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He probably won't have, but if they want a manager to keep them up there are few better.

I think the flaw in this hypothetical scenario is that Pep Guardiola would never take a job like the one at Burnley. He would only ever manage a team with the financial basis to rapidly and dramatically overhaul the playing squad to meet his requirements. Pep wouldn't be asking Ashley Barnes to play pass and move because he wouldn't put himself in a position where he had to ask Ashley Barnes anything at all!