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What do you mean by bottle it? Trying a move and getting it wrong isn’t bottling it.
I didn't say it was. Let's hope that that doesn't play on his mind or the incident last year or his slight drop in performance compared to his team mate.

I suppose what I meant was, let's convert that performance to a win.
 

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If he doesn’t convert his pole into a win, I’m fairly sure ‘bottle’ won’t be the issue. Lando’s problem to date has that he’s been too aggressive at times, the complete opposite to ‘bottle’. But isn’t that what we want from racing?
 
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A good fair race for mclaren..well done norris.
Ferrari are just in their own race really to slow to match mclaren too fast for anyone else, except max.
Red bull. Wow a prime example today of how they have made a car sooo suited for max its undrivable for other drivers. When Max DNFs red bull are in real trouble.
 
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A good fair race for mclaren..well done norris.
Ferrari are just in their own race really to slow to match mclaren too fast for anyone else, except max.
Red bull. Wow a prime example today of how they have made a car sooo suited for max its undrivable for other drivers. When Max DNFs red bull are in real troubG
 
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A good fair race for mclaren..well done norris.
Ferrari are just in their own race really to slow to match mclaren too fast for anyone else, except max.
Red bull. Wow a prime example today of how they have made a car sooo suited for max its undrivable for other drivers. When Max DNFs red bull are in real trouble.
Red Bull currently are 4th in the constructors, if they had 2 drivers scoring points at the rate of their 2nd car they'd be 9th, 3 points ahead of Alpine in last. If Max does leave they are in all kinds of trouble and they start making their own engine next season which will go one of two ways....

Big win for Lando yesterday, if Oscar got him at the end after Lando dominating all weekend and leading 95% of the race it would have been a huge psychological blow. Well done to McLaren for continuing to let them battle after what happened last weekend.

Great to see Lawson and Bortoleto scoring good points and Alonso is now level with Stroll again!
 
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Red Bull currently are 4th in the constructors, if they had 2 drivers scoring points at the rate of their 2nd car they'd be 9th, 3 points ahead of Alpine in last. If Max does leave they are in all kinds of trouble and they start making their own engine next season which will go one of two ways....

Big win for Lando yesterday, if Oscar got him at the end after Lando dominating all weekend and leading 95% of the race it would have been a huge psychological blow. Well done to McLaren for continuing to let them battle after what happened last weekend.

Great to see Lawson and Bortoleto scoring good points and Alonso is now level with Stroll again!
Shocking Red Bull stats when you tease them out.

I really, really hope that Verstappen doesn't end up at Mercedes. I've always liked them, whereas I've disliked Max and RBR for a number of years now. I'd hate to see him win the championship in a Merc - and I'd most hate to see him overhaul Hamilton, especially since Hamilton should already have eight and Verstappen only three.

And who would go? Would Max even agree to a move if George Russell were to be his teammate, to give him serious competition the like of which he's hardly ever known? But who's to say that hotshot Kimi Antonelli wouldn't give him a serious run for his money anyway? Or would he be farmed out to another team for a couple of years while all hell broke loose at Mercedes, with Max/George conflicts on and off the track sufficient to put that Hamilton/Rosberg season in the shade? I suppose that would be entertaining, as long as George came out on top!
 
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The question for me is what are Red Bull going to do about getting a second driver who can score points.
So far Lawson failed when he had a drive. Tsunoda hasn’t done any better so is it time to give Hadjar a go.
 

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The question for me is what are Red Bull going to do about getting a second driver who can score points.
So far Lawson failed when he had a drive. Tsunoda hasn’t done any better so is it time to give Hadjar a go.
But the entire team and car are set up for Max, so nobody else stands much of a chance as things are. If he leaves, who knows? Maybe decent drivers will do just fine there.
 
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Shocking Red Bull stats when you tease them out.

I really, really hope that Verstappen doesn't end up at Mercedes. I've always liked them, whereas I've disliked Max and RBR for a number of years now. I'd hate to see him win the championship in a Merc - and I'd most hate to see him overhaul Hamilton, especially since Hamilton should already have eight and Verstappen only three.

And who would go? Would Max even agree to a move if George Russell were to be his teammate, to give him serious competition the like of which he's hardly ever known? But who's to say that hotshot Kimi Antonelli wouldn't give him a serious run for his money anyway? Or would he be farmed out to another team for a couple of years while all hell broke loose at Mercedes, with Max/George conflicts on and off the track sufficient to put that Hamilton/Rosberg season in the shade? I suppose that would be entertaining, as long as George came out on top!
I was thinking about this yesterday, where could he be farmed out? The obvious choice would be Williams but they're set up with Albon and Sainz for the next couple of years unless Red Bull tempt one of them to replace Max. I think they'd be forced to drop Kimi and of the two at the moment, Kimi is the one you'd drop.

The one thing Max hasn't done is win it with another team, all the greats have won titles or challenged for titles in multiple teams, will that tempt Max to move on? Everything is pointing towards being in a Merc powered team next year, if he can't get in at McLaren, where better to go than Mercedes.
 

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The question for me is what are Red Bull going to do about getting a second driver who can score points.
So far Lawson failed when he had a drive. Tsunoda hasn’t done any better so is it time to give Hadjar a go.
The best thing they can do is tell Yuki its his seat until the end of the season and hope that the security helps him relax into the drive. I think Helmut has indicated as much as well.

Hadjar will be a top driver but he's learning in an environment right now where he understands the team and car. Chucking him up against Max in a pig of a car will do him no good..
 
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The question for me is what are Red Bull going to do about getting a second driver who can score points.
So far Lawson failed when he had a drive. Tsunoda hasn’t done any better so is it time to give Hadjar a go.

Sometimes teams have to admit they've got a pig of a car. I am in no way a fan of Max and I struggle (although I've seen lots talk about him in such ways) to view him as one of the all-time greats, but he can wrestle something out of that car which clearly has struggled this season with balance and grip. No point ruining the confidence of another young driver when odds are there's unlikely to be any more major upgrades to the RB21 for the remainder of the season as the team focuses on next year's car.

If the team did sack Tsunoda, then there is a driver who could do the job - Sergio Perez.
 
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