Argylegames":1rhplp2e said:
Sounds like you dont understand football very well. Probably would help if you watched the game. Just for the record we have won 4 out of 5 now!
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Sounds like you dont understand football very well. Probably would help if you watched the game. Just for the record we have won 4 out of 5 now!
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Balham_Green":nqaasx1z said:
Shame the one we didn't win was the most important of the group games!
England have disappointed and disillusioned me in EVERY tournament and most of the non-tournament games since 30th July 1966. I have come to expect them to fail when it matters. I haven't watched an England game live (I sometimes watch the lowlights) for over 20 years.
I have no hope that they will win anything again in my lifetime.
30th July 1966 was the pinnacle of my international watching. 15th April 1967 was probably one of the lowest (I lived in Scotland at the time)
Luckily the management & players are more interested in the bigger picture for this tournament then bragging rights over an old foe for one game. We get it though, you donāt like or enjoy the England team, doesnāt need to be said over & over againā¦..unless youāre enjoying the attention.
Argylegames":1nn4kd1i said:
Obviously you are just looking for the negatives. Why was Scotland the 'most important group game'? You are not making much sense.
Nothing surprises me with some folk nowadays.
Not sure I can live my life like that, but each to their own i suppose.
This next week is possibly going to one of the most exciting in my 52 years on this earth. So glad that I had that operation last August so that I can enjoy it fully. It's not just the football, I've got a new job starting very soon, I'm enjoying the tennis and I've just started the Million step challenge for Diabetes UK for the 6th year.
And i've not even looked at the new Argyle website and of course New PASOTI will be along soon.
Life is good. Keep smiling.
Not sure I can live my life like that, but each to their own i suppose.
This next week is possibly going to one of the most exciting in my 52 years on this earth. So glad that I had that operation last August so that I can enjoy it fully. It's not just the football, I've got a new job starting very soon, I'm enjoying the tennis and I've just started the Million step challenge for Diabetes UK for the 6th year.
And i've not even looked at the new Argyle website and of course New PASOTI will be along soon.
Life is good. Keep smiling.
I think you fall into two age brackets.
The people who experienced ā90 and ā96 and those who didnāt witness it.
Unfortunately, those semi final defeats against the Germans were heart breaking. It wasnāt just losing. It was the fact they lost via penalties. Unfortunately, itās difficult to shake those memories off.
Then you the āgolden generationā. Players with undoubted ability but failed to deliver along with the management at the time.
Three years ago we have a loverly pathway to the semi final. We took the lead. In the second half Southgate lost grip of that game and his tactics were too cautious.
Now, on home soil, we have a better opportunity than we ever had to get to a final. Yes Southgate has done well up to this point. Yet if we lose against Denmark you watch the criticism, whether itās fair or not, be unleashed on him. Social media is an absolute beast. Itās a hype train running wild at the moment and it could lead to an explosion of emotions where it may not be justified if we lose on Wednesday.
England have played a cautious, pragmatic but nevertheless ruthless style of football. We beat a German side in knockout football for first time since ā66. The result was brilliant but up until we scored the performance was average and Germany had their moment with Werner in the first half.
We beat a Ukraine side that beat North Macedonia and qualified with just 3 points. They needed the post, bar and a red card to get past Sweden.
If we play like we did against the Germans but Denmark take that one opportunity (that Germany didnāt) l think people will end up being very frustrated. You play this style of football, you have to win.
We havenāt fallen behind yet. Hopefully we wonāt. Yet if we do (or if we go into a cagey extra time scenario like we did with Croatia in 2018) thatās then the watershed moment for Southgate. How brave will he be? Denmark played a 3 at the back system. How will he start the match? Will he mirror their formation or will he stick with the 4.
Football is harsh. Itās fine margins. I feel Shaw is playing so well. On he right side though l feel Walker loses defensive concentration and itās his pace that helps him get out of trouble. I think we have been good, without being great. The Scotland game was frustrating but people reacted like we lost. The Ukraine game was very good but you have to take into account who we are playing. We are either rubbish or world beaters and l just think we are somewhere in between.
I hope we find the inspiration on Wednesday to finally get us over the line and into a final. I hope Lady Luck is smiling on us too. We will need her. I hope football is finally coming home.
The people who experienced ā90 and ā96 and those who didnāt witness it.
Unfortunately, those semi final defeats against the Germans were heart breaking. It wasnāt just losing. It was the fact they lost via penalties. Unfortunately, itās difficult to shake those memories off.
Then you the āgolden generationā. Players with undoubted ability but failed to deliver along with the management at the time.
Three years ago we have a loverly pathway to the semi final. We took the lead. In the second half Southgate lost grip of that game and his tactics were too cautious.
Now, on home soil, we have a better opportunity than we ever had to get to a final. Yes Southgate has done well up to this point. Yet if we lose against Denmark you watch the criticism, whether itās fair or not, be unleashed on him. Social media is an absolute beast. Itās a hype train running wild at the moment and it could lead to an explosion of emotions where it may not be justified if we lose on Wednesday.
England have played a cautious, pragmatic but nevertheless ruthless style of football. We beat a German side in knockout football for first time since ā66. The result was brilliant but up until we scored the performance was average and Germany had their moment with Werner in the first half.
We beat a Ukraine side that beat North Macedonia and qualified with just 3 points. They needed the post, bar and a red card to get past Sweden.
If we play like we did against the Germans but Denmark take that one opportunity (that Germany didnāt) l think people will end up being very frustrated. You play this style of football, you have to win.
We havenāt fallen behind yet. Hopefully we wonāt. Yet if we do (or if we go into a cagey extra time scenario like we did with Croatia in 2018) thatās then the watershed moment for Southgate. How brave will he be? Denmark played a 3 at the back system. How will he start the match? Will he mirror their formation or will he stick with the 4.
Football is harsh. Itās fine margins. I feel Shaw is playing so well. On he right side though l feel Walker loses defensive concentration and itās his pace that helps him get out of trouble. I think we have been good, without being great. The Scotland game was frustrating but people reacted like we lost. The Ukraine game was very good but you have to take into account who we are playing. We are either rubbish or world beaters and l just think we are somewhere in between.
I hope we find the inspiration on Wednesday to finally get us over the line and into a final. I hope Lady Luck is smiling on us too. We will need her. I hope football is finally coming home.
L G":3jzjgcbv said:
Your right. Enjoy the moment. Thatās what these experiences are about.
The GB girl at Wimbledon is an inspiration.
Whether England ever win another World Cup or their First European Championship there is a lot of things to be proud about regarding not only England, but Great Britain as a whole.
A football result shouldnāt define us. Itās just a game after all.
Argylegames":1g2zy6at said:
What a very odd outlook on England. Quite frankly, of you haven't been watching any of our games and have no interest then why are you in this forum slagging them off?
Southgate is now Englands 2nd most successful manager of all time with 3 semi finals in the bag (yes I do count the Nations League as we beat two very good teams to get there) and he must be on a quarter of the wages that Capello and Sven were on!
Clarke_B":278jcr85 said:
My jealousy levels have peaked considering I've just tested positive and will have to watch us win the thing from home :facepalm:
Enjoy it though!
Cobi Budge":296bs5od said:
ā¬85 is a darn site cheaper than when I looked for tickets in Rome. The cheapest I saw were ā¬320!!
Not at all jealous :think:
Wishing you a speedy recovery Cobi!!!
Lousy_Pint":23sqy4au said:
Asymptomatic at the moment mate and fully vaccinated. I think it's the 10 days sitting at home that's gonna drive me crazy!
One selection issue that has surprised me in the England squad has been the infrequent use of Phil Foden. Before the tournament started, I would have expected him to feature in the majority of games. I know that he was omitted from the 3rd game because he was āon a bookingā but I am wondering if his omission is related to his Gazza stunt with his hair style. I have been reading that Southgateās right hand man, Steve Holland, has no time for egos and, perhaps, Foden shot himself in the foot by attention seeking.
Just wondering if others have similar suspicions?
Just wondering if others have similar suspicions?
Not easy Southgate's job:
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to Foden.
know when to walk away
know when to run
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You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to Foden.
know when to walk away
know when to run
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