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Just think, the far right , (Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc), have now had to rely on a 17 year old vigilante, hooked on guns, who has KILLED 2 people, somehow managed to be found not guilty, to get some sort of publicity , they are happy with.
Bloodyhell, are they desperate.

See Tucker Carlson (Fox news),has taken control over the killer.
 
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...somehow managed to be found not guilty...

Actually, Rittenhouse was always going to more-likely-than-not to be found not-guilty under Winsconsin self-defense laws. In that state the burden is on the prosecution to disprove self-defense which is a big ask in itself, but as soon as Rittenhouse took to the stand (ably prepped by his expensive legal team) and put forward explanations as to what happened in each case where he killed two and wounded the third, the jury unanimously had enough reasonable doubt in the prosecution's case that he was the aggressor, so found him not guilty.

That he came from out of town with an AR15 is irrelevant.
 

MickyD

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Just think, the far right , (Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc), have now had to rely on a 17 year old vigilante, hooked on guns, who has KILLED 2 people, somehow managed to be found not guilty, to get some sort of publicity , they are happy with.
Bloodyhell, are they desperate.

See Tucker Carlson (Fox news),has taken control over the killer.
And everyone's favourite (alleged) living paedophile, GOP Representative Matt Gaetz, says he thinks Rittenhouse might make a good congressional intern, and may contact him to see if he wants to help the US "in additional ways". (In addition to...?)

Of course, it's a classic example of attempting to own the libs, but in the bizarro world of the modern MAGA GOP you can see him really getting that job. Half of America is living in the Upside Down.

As long-time readers of this thread may recall, Gaetz was the one who made the brilliantly witty and not at all needy joke of wearing a full-on gas mask around Washington and in Congress during a coronavirus emergency funding vote very early in the pandemic. That was before his (alleged) serial paedophilia and (alleged) heavy drug use came to light, of course. He's such a young scamp.

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Actually, Rittenhouse was always going to more-likely-than-not to be found not-guilty under Winsconsin self-defense laws. In that state the burden is on the prosecution to disprove self-defense which is a big ask in itself, but as soon as Rittenhouse took to the stand (ably prepped by his expensive legal team) and put forward explanations as to what happened in each case where he killed two and wounded the third, the jury unanimously had enough reasonable doubt in the prosecution's case that he was the aggressor, so found him not guilty.

That he came from out of town with an AR15 is irrelevant.
Quinny during the evidence it came out that he was working that night in the town and that he was staying with family members.
 
Jul 15, 2006
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Great result in Georgia this afternoon

It is, but it was one hellva struggle to get it to court in the first place. The automatic assumption that Arbery was a burglar because he was black, that the second DA (the first recused themselves due to links to one of the suspects, and also apparently tried to stop the investigation) thought it was justifiable homicide because, you know, black, and that it wasn't until footage of what actually happened was leaked to the press that arrests were made. And when it came to the trial, in a State where 24% of the population is black, there was only one black person selected for the jury.

I read somewhere that the first DA who tried to kick the investigation into the long grass has now been indicted for not fulfilling her oath to public office. Which is good.
 
Dec 27, 2004
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Wow 😱

"The Chief’s Chief will be published next week. This week, the Guardian broke the news that according to Meadows, Trump tested positive for Covid three days before the first presidential debate with Joe Biden in September last year.

Meadows also details how that test, like another which came back negative, was covered up. Trump eventually announced a positive test on 2 October, the day he was admitted to hospital in Maryland. The White House said that positive result was announced within an hour.

This week, amid huge controversy over whether Trump had endangered not only Biden but the White House press corps, debate staff, the families of fallen US service members, businessmen and more, Trump called the Guardian report “fake news” – a judgment with which Meadows, bizarrely, agreed.

But outlets including the New York Times and the Washington Post confirmed the cover-up"
 

MickyD

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Yes, that first came to light a couple of days ago. Then, when Trump (naturally) denounced it as fake news, Meadows himself, pusillanimous little anal wart that he is, desperately tried to backtrack on what he'd written in his own book by claiming that his words had, somehow or other, been misintepreted. Many of us have said it before, but it's worth repeating: there really is no bottom of the barrel when it comes to Trump and the modern GOP.

Trouble is, utterly pathetic as it all is, it will almost certainly lead to the death of democracy, or what passes for it.
 
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MickyD

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And, speaking of the death of democracy...

US ‘closer to civil war’ than most would like to believe, new book says

This should come as no surprise at all to anyone who's been following events in the US over the last few years - in fact I and others have been saying as much for a long time on this very thread - but it's interesting to see it confirmed by analytical tools that have previously been used by the US to assess other countries around the world. The article also threw up a word new to me: anocracy.

The book in which Walter looks at those risk factors in the US, How Civil Wars Start, will be published in January. According to the Post, Walter writes: “No one wants to believe that their beloved democracy is in decline, or headed toward war."

But “if you were an analyst in a foreign country looking at events in America – the same way you’d look at events in Ukraine or Ivory Coast or Venezuela – you would go down a checklist, assessing each of the conditions that make civil war likely.

“And what you would find is that the United States, a democracy founded more than two centuries ago, has entered very dangerous territory.”

Walter, the Post said, concludes that the US has passed through stages of “pre-insurgency” and “incipient conflict” and may now be in “open conflict”, beginning with the Capitol riot.

Citing analytics used by the Center for Systemic Peace, Walter also says the US has become an “anocracy” – “somewhere between a democracy and an autocratic state”.
 
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Anocracy, an interesting word indeed, and when you analyse it, it is the obvious result of an electoral system that, like ours, leads to the dominance of just two main parties and thus polarisation, open to hostage by populist plutocrats who can manipulate their followers with promises and lies.
 
And, speaking of the death of democracy...

US ‘closer to civil war’ than most would like to believe, new book says

This should come as no surprise at all to anyone who's been following events in the US over the last few years - in fact I and others have been saying as much for a long time on this very thread - but it's interesting to see it confirmed by analytical tools that have previously been used by the US to assess other countries around the world. The article also threw up a word new to me: anocracy.
Since this post it’s been interesting to read and hear the number of heavyweight commentators seriously considering the possibility of an American civil war. With over one third of American voters believing the election was stolen, and Trump making it clear he will probably run for re-election, the consequences could be chilling.

One point though, the last civil war ran on clear geographical lines of north v south. Where the divisions now lie within each state, you have to wonder just how a civil war would manifest itself. I guess a potential spark-point would be the result of any individual republican state changing it’s voting rules to disadvantage democrat voters. Interesting times.