Churchill was on to this. A few years back visiting his Kent house I read a memo he sent insisting that Paris must not be pronounced Paree, and apparently the practice in government promptly stopped.
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What do you reckon, one more, a striker (or two)???
Country names
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At a personal level I find it sad. As a Brit, I think we should call a country by it’s known British name in and on broadcasts to Britain. I’d accept the Wold Service may wish alter as it isn’t aimed at Brits directly.
I believe some countries have petitioned in different arena’s to be called by their native names. The Cape Verde did this to the UN and it was altered to be diplomatic. I don’t know, but I’ll guess they dod the same to sports governing bodies after the UN accepted it.
I believe some countries have petitioned in different arena’s to be called by their native names. The Cape Verde did this to the UN and it was altered to be diplomatic. I don’t know, but I’ll guess they dod the same to sports governing bodies after the UN accepted it.
I think in the cases of Türkiye, Cabo Verde and Côte D'Ivoire, these are the official names of these countries *in English*. So using them isn't the same thing as randomly saying Deutschland, Sverige etc in English. In some cases this is because it's changed recently (Türkiye) after a request from the country in question and in time I guess we'll no more refer to Turkey than say we're going on holiday to Siam...
This means official results etc use these names and somebody on the telly is likely to be simply reading what's in front of them and possibly also under pressure to refer to countries as they wish to be referred to. Not just trying to be "woke". Though of course older informal names survive in parallel, particular for countries we aren't used to discussing (Cape Verde).
I'm of the opinion that there's nothing "sad" or "woke" about trying to refer to foreign people and places as they wish to be referred to in English. I think it's only fair if you want foreigners to try to pronounce your name and/or your city correctly. We'd all protest if some foreigner was referring to "Pl-eye-mouth", wouldn't we?
This means official results etc use these names and somebody on the telly is likely to be simply reading what's in front of them and possibly also under pressure to refer to countries as they wish to be referred to. Not just trying to be "woke". Though of course older informal names survive in parallel, particular for countries we aren't used to discussing (Cape Verde).
I'm of the opinion that there's nothing "sad" or "woke" about trying to refer to foreign people and places as they wish to be referred to in English. I think it's only fair if you want foreigners to try to pronounce your name and/or your city correctly. We'd all protest if some foreigner was referring to "Pl-eye-mouth", wouldn't we?
I met an American at work once who told me he was staying at the Sayvoy hotel, and referred to a cock-up as a fox pass.
I quite agree. As the OP I was merely wondering at the inconsistency, highlighted by the World Cup, and I for one was certainly not implying that I was irritated by some "woke" agenda. There are more than enough others on Pasoti who make a very tiresome habit of doing that.
