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Coronavirus (merged threads)

Frank Butcher

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So, down to level 3 fully endorsed by the chief medical officers of all 4 nations. Reports that the PM wanted to do it last week but was denied by those advisers so it didn't happen.

Government following scientific and medical advice - who'd have thunk it ?
 

MickyD

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Frank_Butcher":2zsm20y2 said:
So, down to level 3 fully endorsed by the chief medical officers of all 4 nations. Reports that the PM wanted to do it last week but was denied by those advisers so it didn't happen.

Government following scientific and medical advice - who'd have thunk it ?
Yes, fair do's - some good news.

I do worry, though, that a lot of the population are now in full-on complacent mode, where they more or less think it's all over. It isn't now! (Couldn't resist.)
 
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MickyD":27mhuly1 said:
a lot of the population are now in full-on complacent mode, where they more or less think it's all over. It isn't now! (Couldn't resist.)

Which is why we're pushing on with the Nightingale here in Exeter.
 

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Quinny":2k4yawae said:
MickyD":2k4yawae said:
a lot of the population are now in full-on complacent mode, where they more or less think it's all over. It isn't now! (Couldn't resist.)

Which is why we're pushing on with the Nightingale here in Exeter.

Can't help but think if everyone took this seriously in the first place it would be over and done with by now.

Pushing 50k deaths and another wage could push that up to 100k.
 

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So, you live in Leicester.
Government rules allow you to drive as far as Barnard Castle for a day out as long as you are back by midnight before your car becomes a virus ridden pumpkin. You could of course, stay overnight in a bubble.
You fancy a family day out, shopping, food walk in the country.
'Right, get the kids hin, where are my car keys. We're off!'

Discuss.
 

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What can you say? Just thank our lucky stars that at least we don't live in America, I suppose.

I had an interesting experience yesterday. I filled up my car for the first time in months at my local garage, and when I went inside to pay (still wearing my latex gloves, of course) I was pleased to see that they at least had perspex screens in front of the tills. I said as much to the chap at the till, whom I've "known" for several years. He said he wished they weren't there, and of course I asked why.

"It's just a cold," he said. "100,000 people die every year of a cold so what's all the fuss about?" (Die of a cold?!?!? He didn't even say flu.)

I said as politely as I could that I thought he was talking nonsense (if you can ever say that politely :whistle: ), and that we'd better just leave it there. It was not the time or the place, and there were a couple of people behind me - observing the two-metre floor markings, I'm pleased to say. (That must p1ss him off all day every day, then!)

It was really quite odd because it was the first time I'd ever come up against that attitude in person (not surprising, given lockdown!) and it came from someone I'd chatted to briefly countless times. It made me wonder what on earth else he believes in. I suspect that I'd rather not know. Science deniers and conspiracy theorists tend to invest in entire bundles, don't they?
 
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I saw some pictures of the Barbican one morning after "the night before" from a few days ago, and frankly I was saddened, but not surprised. But, as I understand it, the criteria for localised lockdowns is where the trend of infections and admissions into hospital are rising, not falling, and I'm not aware of this being the case in Plymouth (although I've not au fait with their stats, unlike here in Exeter).

What is interesting is the number of London boroughs on that list, which will make a mockery of "lockdown", as people will just jump on the tube to somewhere which isn't in lockdown. If one part of London is at risk, then lock the entire city down.
 
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Ah, now I understand. The Govt is basing this on pillar 1 test results (tests carried out at hospitals and Public Health England laboratories) and pillar 2 results (commercial providers such as drive-throughs, home kits, etc). What is published nationally is just the pillar 1 stats: in Leicester when the pillar 2 scores were added to their pillar 1, the results were ten times higher than what was published, so this could be the same for Plymouth too.
 

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Pogleswoody":2ypgxjtb said:
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Derriford hospital announced today that there are currently no patients with coronavirus in either of the Plymouth hospitals.


Matt Hancock announced today that they have all been moved to Care Homes, in line with ongoing Government policy! :thumbs:


I'd like to apologise to Matt Hancock, Boris Johnson and all the other Government spokespeople and advisers for my heartless comment above.

I honestly didn't realise that the Government got everything right from March onwards, that they told Care Homes what to do and the blasted Care Home Managers and Staff just ignored everything and killed all those poor old people!

Nasty Care Home Owners, Managers and Staff, nasty naughty people!! :furious:
 

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A shocking piece of snivelling, cowardly blame-shifting, even for Boris Johnson. I suppose he's trying to get everything in place for the inevitable public inquiry.
 

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Quinny":2ocdcdhi said:
MickyD":2ocdcdhi said:

Only if he snuffs it. But odds are he'll be given the all-clear in a week's time and he'll up the "what's all the fuss about?" rhetoric.
Well, I won't shed a tear if he does snuff it - but yes, if he gets away with a really mild version it will just make him even worse.