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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am 

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It’s has all the makings of a cheeky bid to lure a half decent player here.

We had very little to lose.

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:58 am 

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Andy Holland wrote:
To be fair we have zero evidence it comes down to money.

For all we know Adams told Mason he was going to be an option from the bench and Mason didn't fancy it.

Or, we weren't offering a long enough contract.

To jump to "he's a greedy footballer" straight away is isn't really very fair, especially when there isn't a single person on here who wouldn't move companies if it meant he got his wages doubled.

Maybe it was money, maybe it wasn't - let's not it become a pasoti fact though, eh?


Why let a lack of information and facts get in the way of a good slating?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:01 pm 

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Why ever worry about players that at not at your respective club?

Nothing to see here....move along

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:06 pm 
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I think there is very reasonable evidence that location and length of contract weren't the issue.
It doesn't leave a lot else!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:07 pm 
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gaspargomez wrote:
Why is that Argyle can't compete financially with other clubs in the bottom two divisions when Home Park has some of the largest gates outside the Championship ?

Forget this stuff about Mason not fitting into the formation. Adams obviously wanted him but did not have the playing budget. Yet other clubs in League One and Two can afford him it seems.



You keep banging on with the same old record, but attendances in this day and age are just a small influence on club budgets.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:13 pm 

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Voice_of_Reason wrote:
I think there is very reasonable evidence that location and length of contract weren't the issue.
It doesn't leave a lot else!


Perhaps he didn’t want to work for the manager. Until/if he says why he didn’t come back we will only ever be speculating.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:36 pm 

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I don't think anyone really believed this deal would happen. The offer we made to him was probably a token offer rather than a genuine offer that the board believed he would accept. It was just to try and make the fans believe we were trying for a player of his calibre. It seems to be that if we want to make a signing, then we need to be the only club interested, otherwise we will be outbid (even by league 2 teams).


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:43 pm 

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Move on. Find someone else.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:44 pm 
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The real reason that Mason isn't coming is obviously that he was bitterly disappointed that the number of pages on this thread only made it into the 30s. He would have been expecting AT LEAST the 60s or 70s for a player of his calibre.
And anyway, Adams has spoken too soon. It's not Friday yet - anything could still happen...


[so much is being stated by so many posters here with such certainty that I thought it would be okay to add a bit more truth to the thread]


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
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If he don't want to come OK, it's his choice, he's been playing in the prem/championship, why would he want to drop to LG 1,we had him when he was young, he did us good then, let him move to where he wants to go, no loss to us


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Lost track of how many times I've had to say this on here, but we aren't in the 80's or 90's anymore, attendances are no longer the sole indication of a clubs financial clout, it's so outdated to assume that because a club has more fans, it must have more money.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Mason (14 Feb - not coming)
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MarkMatthews wrote:
Voice_of_Reason wrote:
I think there is very reasonable evidence that location and length of contract weren't the issue.
It doesn't leave a lot else!


Perhaps he didn’t want to work for the manager. Until/if he says why he didn’t come back we will only ever be speculating.


Maybe we went in with wat we valued him at contractually.

He’s done very little and only having spent time at Cardiff and wolves attributing to his credibility. That’s pretty much what people are valuing him at, an ex premiership striker on a free.

Adams has seen his ‘potential’ in this league/team and whilst he’s likely to add something to us he’s still a pretty low scoring, had little game time and had a few injury’s. Some other clubs will take a punt on that with excessive wages and terms but we clearly won’t.

It was a low risk caluculated contract based on what he can do for us and what we could do with him getting his career back on track. He’s obviously motivated more for finance than development and match time so I don’t think Adams has sold us short on contract terms. He’s offered him what he thinks he is worth today which is probably an 18 month contract on £2.5-3k a week. If he gets a 2 year deal on £4-5k a week then I wouldn’t want us to go any where near the negotiating table.

Slightly disappointed with Joe’s decision but utterly approve of Adams stance.

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Biggs wrote:
gaspargomez wrote:
Why is that Argyle can't compete financially with other clubs in the bottom two divisions when Home Park has some of the largest gates outside the Championship ?


This sentence has to be Pasoti bingo at this point, surely.

Unless I'm being whooshed :lol:



We haven't got the largest gates outside the Championship!
That is just where the builders have pulled the walls down to get plant and materials in!! :lol:


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