Macey - positioning issue?

Gloucester Green · Sep 1, 2018

I am only going by highlights here (and the Bristol City game I attended) but it appears his positioning and being caught in no man's land have cost us a few goals this season. Granted the chances are being created due to defensive errors but I see a trend emerging that he doesn't have a presence in the box and his inexperience is showing. Could be a long season if he doesn't pick this up sharpish

Just my thoughts not making him a scapegoat but it's quite a big factor in our goals conceded column

crownhill pilgrim · Sep 1, 2018

Yeah, a Luton-supporting friend of mine said the same thing when he played for them

Balham Green · Sep 1, 2018

Gloucester Green":3qjk9tfz said:
I am only going by highlights here (and the Bristol City game I attended) but it appears his positioning and being caught in no man's land have cost us a few goals this season. Granted the chances are being created due to defensive errors but I see a trend emerging that he doesn't have a presence in the box and his inexperience is showing. Could be a long season if he doesn't pick this up sharpish

Just my thoughts not making him a scapegoat but it's quite a big factor in our goals conceded column

That would be the Bristol z city game where he kept a clean sheet? He's a young lad learning his game. That's why he's here. But he is a long way from being our biggest problem. Which goals would you blame him for?

Welwyn Pilgrim · Sep 1, 2018

Not as many as Carey has given away......

Keepitgreen · Sep 1, 2018

Please don't judge him on one game and a few minutes highlights. It would help if he had a defence that he could rely on.

Gloucester Green · Sep 1, 2018

I'm not blaming him on one performance but when you watch the highlights from all goals conceded this season he has a habit of coming towards the ball but not committing to making a challenge and does appear to be lacking control of his area.

The Bristol game yes he had a clean sheet and made a few good saves but one swallow doesn't make a summer

Can we carry an inexperienced keeper with out experienced but totally abysmal defence?

Balham Green · Sep 1, 2018

Gloucester Green":1unyc42v said:
I'm not blaming him on one performance but when you watch the highlights from all goals conceded this season he has a habit of coming towards the ball but not committing to making a challenge and does appear to be lacking control of his area.

The Bristol game yes he had a clean sheet and made a few good saves but one swallow doesn't make a summer

Can we carry an inexperienced keeper with out experienced but totally abysmal defence?

But the Bristol game was the one game you went to. ...! And you are judging him on thst. Makes no sense.

Gloucester Green · Sep 1, 2018

No I have judged him on that game and the highlights that's abundantly clear from my original post

Get a highlight reel of the goals conceded and you will see the errors

Balham Green · Sep 1, 2018

Gloucester Green":3gqgd0xn said:
No I have judged him on that game and the highlights that's abundantly clear from my original post

Get a highlight reel of the goals conceded and you will see the errors

As another poster said you can't judge from the highlights. So which goals then?

Gloucester Green · Sep 1, 2018

A goalkeeper is a player you can assess on highlights as they are involved in every goal

Wycombe he's on his tip toes deciding should he stay or should he go... Result a goal as he is too slow getting down

Peterboroughs 3rd comes out towards ball hesitates then gets beat and their 5th again comes out towards ball and instead of making the decision to dive on it he throws a leg as its going past him

Pompey 1st comes out way too far and leaves the ball across the goal into an empty net a nailed on goal. Their second he falls over as it goes to back post for the header

Not to mention the goals from obscure angles in the two P games

These are the highlights I've watched today

Balham Green · Sep 2, 2018

Gloucester Green":rxnsby6p said:
A goalkeeper is a player you can assess on highlights as they are involved in every goal

Wycombe he's on his tip toes deciding should he stay or should he go... Result a goal as he is too slow getting down

Peterboroughs 3rd comes out towards ball hesitates then gets beat and their 5th again comes out towards ball and instead of making the decision to dive on it he throws a leg as its going past him

Pompey 1st comes out way too far and leaves the ball across the goal into an empty net a nailed on goal. Their second he falls over as it goes to back post for the header

Not to mention the goals from obscure angles in the two P games

These are the highlights I've watched today

I'd say that's nonsense. A keeper can't stop everything and it's all very well sitting here with hindsight when you know which way the ball is going. Also your original point was more about not dominating his area which may be more valid.

gaspargomez · Sep 2, 2018

He's not as good as Matthews- I think that's evident from what I have seen so far. But nor is he being helped much by our defenders, which look like the worst bunch of recent years. I respect Adams, but I think he's really cocked up his recruitment of centre backs this summer. They are going to have to improve very quickly or otherwise it's going to be a long wait until the January transfer window.

Andy Holland · Sep 2, 2018

If you thought we were signing the finished article, you don't understand the loan market.

Argy1e · Sep 2, 2018

Balham_Green":16i18hbc said:
He's a young lad learning his game. That's why he's here.

He's not that young. He's 24 next week. You could say that is young for a keeper, and that keepers often hit their peak around 30, but I'd say that's an outdated comment that doesn't ring true anymore. Most goalkeepers these days seem to hit their peak in their mid 20's.

Steve Evans · Sep 2, 2018

Balham_Green":3mng90fa said:
Gloucester Green":3mng90fa said:

I am only going by highlights here (and the Bristol City game I attended) but it appears his positioning and being caught in no man's land have cost us a few goals this season. Granted the chances are being created due to defensive errors but I see a trend emerging that he doesn't have a presence in the box and his inexperience is showing. Could be a long season if he doesn't pick this up sharpish

Just my thoughts not making him a scapegoat but it's quite a big factor in our goals conceded column

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That would be the Bristol z city game where he kept a clean sheet? He's a young lad learning his game. That's why he's here. But he is a long way from being our biggest problem. Which goals would you blame him for?

our great club is no place for a learner from another club.letheren should be in goal with cooper on the bench.