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Bulgaria v England
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Full credit to every single England player tonight, in particular those black members of the team, theyâve all shown remarkable levels of concentration & professionalism in a pretty sickening environment, theyâve done us proud in more ways than one.
Talking about the game itself, a controlled performance, in those moments when we stepped up a gear Bulgaria couldnât handle us at all. I thought Tyrone Mings had a strong, deserved debut and Iâd like to him continue as a starter.
Talking about the game itself, a controlled performance, in those moments when we stepped up a gear Bulgaria couldnât handle us at all. I thought Tyrone Mings had a strong, deserved debut and Iâd like to him continue as a starter.
Cobi Budge":pheylwme said:
Good post, Cobi, summed up everything.
The only way, may be to solve this disease, especially at club level is to make very hefty fines, and then to deduct points, especially at club level.
Then Clubs may sort out their racist fans, at every level.
Clubs will find the money, but will be furious about points deduction.
Martyn":3uw7unoo said:
Looked like an organised 'political' racist event to me. Very little to do with football, doubt that those who left at half-time are regular Bulgarian League watchers.
T'was obvious who they were, where they were. Police must have known. What did they do? Let them do their fascist salutes and then walk out free (still making those signs!).
And as for the idiot before the game (who was he?) saying Bulgaria doesn't have a problem but the UK does? Numpty!! :furious:
I fully expect UEFA to fine England for allowing their fans to boo the Bulgarian national anthem and then tell Bulgaria not to be such naughty boys in the future. I expect FIFA to award a World Cup to Bulgaria at some future point. Letâs face it both organisations are anti England not anti racist.
On a vaguely Argyle-related slant I genuinely wonder what Graham Carey's take is on all this. His path must cross professionally with some of the guys who played for Bulgaria last night. I imagine it would be difficult for him when he reads that the national team manager didn't actually hear anything untoward (his hearing must be as bad as Arsene Wenger's eyesight!) and the reported comments from the Bulgarian keeper, as follows :
Bulgariaâs goalkeeper Plamen Iliev believes their fans âbehaved wellâ in Sofia on Monday, despite the game being halted twice in the first half due to racist chants from the home fans.
Speaking to reporters after the game, Iliev praised Bulgariaâs fans and said that Englandâs complaints were an overreaction.
âIf I am honest, I believe they [the fans] behaved well today,â Iliev said. âThere wasnât any abuse [as far as I could hear] and I think they [the England players] overreacted a bit. The public was on a good level â I didnât hear any bad language used towards their or our players.â
If the first step to solving a problem is to admit its existence then the Bulgarian football authorities have one helluva journey in front of them...
Bulgariaâs goalkeeper Plamen Iliev believes their fans âbehaved wellâ in Sofia on Monday, despite the game being halted twice in the first half due to racist chants from the home fans.
Speaking to reporters after the game, Iliev praised Bulgariaâs fans and said that Englandâs complaints were an overreaction.
âIf I am honest, I believe they [the fans] behaved well today,â Iliev said. âThere wasnât any abuse [as far as I could hear] and I think they [the England players] overreacted a bit. The public was on a good level â I didnât hear any bad language used towards their or our players.â
If the first step to solving a problem is to admit its existence then the Bulgarian football authorities have one helluva journey in front of them...
I think this article by Marine Hyde in The Guardian is worth a read:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ling-sofia
(as many of her articles are)
In my opinion, unless and until we are able to fully and successfully confront our own problems then it is unlikely that we will be able to do all that much to help others to confront theirs.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ling-sofia
(as many of her articles are)
In my opinion, unless and until we are able to fully and successfully confront our own problems then it is unlikely that we will be able to do all that much to help others to confront theirs.
I totally agree but at least we know and recognise we have a problem. Can the same be said about Bulgaria or Italy?
