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Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 23:47 18 Mar 2019
by PL2 3DQ
Even before today I felt Bercow was loving the attention a bit too much - the rock star of Parliament. Division!

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 00:45 19 Mar 2019
by MickyD
Yes, he's always been too much of a show pony for comfort - even his endless variations on "Order!" smack of that kind of ref who wants to be a bigger TV star than the players. (And his wife Sally is just as much of a fame hog.)

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 10:04 19 Mar 2019
by MickyD
And here's a little compilation. If ever a man was aware that he was on camera...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7EIZl4raY

Ironically, the video is captioned "'Order!' Why Europeans are turning to John Bercow for light relief in Brexit chaos."

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 13:08 19 Mar 2019
by PL2 3DQ
MickyD wrote: And here's a little compilation. If ever a man was aware that he was on camera...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7EIZl4raY

Ironically, the video is captioned "'Order!' Why Europeans are turning to John Bercow for light relief in Brexit chaos."


Yep, 'look at me'. Condescending wordsmith!

It's traditional for retiring Speakers to become a Lord, will that be granted to Bercow?
He probably craves a place on the celebrity circuit of talk shows and reality shows.

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 13:33 19 Mar 2019
by Ave_IT
Mike E wrote: What has happened to this country ? Why are we in such a mess ?

Well .... on June 23rd 2016 ...... we did something rather silly :facepalm:

There is a parallel universe where we didn’t do that silly thing ….. a wondrous place where our entire system of government is busy addressing those trivial little things we used to worry about – you know, stuff like the health service, education system, police force, social services, crime, economic growth, transport, infrastructure etc. etc. ….. and our businesses are concentrating all their efforts and resources on investing, growing, trading, innovating, training, generating the wealth to spend on those other things ……….

Hey-ho.

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 14:24 19 Mar 2019
by PlymouthCasual
I dont think I have ever been this demoralized with the entirety of the house of commons in all of my life! Three years of in fighting and prioritising personal gain and we are no closer to a respectible deal than when we started! I hope these cowards are proud of the shambles they have turned the UK into.

I openly admit that I voted Leave due to my belief that it was impossible for unelectable EU beurocrats to have the best interests of the UK at the forefront of there minds at all times. I genuinly beleived that the UK Electorate would be best to control the UK's best interests.

I dont think I could have been more wrong looking at the last three years. I wouldn't trust these rodents with my last pound!

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 15:12 19 Mar 2019
by MickyD
A genuine question, then, PC: would you now vote remain in a second referendum?

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 17:15 19 Mar 2019
by PlymouthCasual
Yes I would Micky. My view of the EU remains the same but I have zero confidence in our government delivering a deal which is best for the people of the UK.

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 18:44 19 Mar 2019
by Pogleswoody
PlymouthCasual wrote: I dont think I have ever been this demoralized with the entirety of the house of commons in all of my life! Three years of in fighting and prioritising personal gain and we are no closer to a respectible deal than when we started! I hope these cowards are proud of the shambles they have turned the UK into.

I openly admit that I voted Leave due to my belief that it was impossible for unelectable EU beurocrats to have the best interests of the UK at the forefront of there minds at all times. I genuinly beleived that the UK Electorate would be best to control the UK's best interests.

I dont think I could have been more wrong looking at the last three years. I wouldn't trust these rodents with my last pound!



Tonight I got an e-mail from Labour exhorting me to vote for them in the Local Elections. Big spiel about people using and benefitting from the NHS.
Do you know what? WHOOSH!! :yawn:

I'm no longer interested cos they are just doing thier own thing for themselves. TM the PM pretending to be a leaver, JC (no the other one!) pretending to be a Remainer.
Both pretending to be serious politicians and leaders!! :facepalm:
WTF just happened to our country? :facepalm:

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 19:00 19 Mar 2019
by Mike E
The speaker referring back to precedent set in the 1600s reveals just how antiquated our parliamentary system and procedures really are.

It is about time the UK embraced the modern world and gave its people a democracy and constitution that was representative of their views. We have witnessed a three year pantomime of two stale and out of date institutions fighting to save themselves at the expense of the people they are supposed to serve.

British politics needs a massive shake up with new parties, new ideas and a reformed parliamentary system that encourages co-operation.

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 19:07 19 Mar 2019
by MickyD
PlymouthCasual wrote: Yes I would Micky. My view of the EU remains the same but I have zero confidence in our government delivering a deal which is best for the people of the UK.

Although I've always been remain myself, under the circumstances it almost pains me to welcome you into the fold, so to speak.

It honestly feels as if our country is well and truly fcuked for at least a generation, but probably for substantially longer by dint of the fact that while we may eventually regain some semblance of self-respect as a nation (and, actually far more importantly in trade and geopolitical terms, the respect of other nations who we hope may one day forgive us and stop laughing at us), the economic and cultural damage will be hard-wired into the fabric of our society for far longer.

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 19:13 19 Mar 2019
by Martyn
Mike E wrote: The speaker referring back to precedent set in the 1600s reveals just how antiquated our parliamentary system and procedures really are.

It is about time the UK embraced the modern world and gave its people a democracy and constitution that was representative of their views. We have witnessed a three year pantomime of two stale and out of date institutions fighting to save themselves at the expense of the people they are supposed to serve.

British politics needs a massive shake up with new parties, new ideas and a reformed parliamentary system that encourages co-operation.


It is totally not about rules set in 1604,it is completely about the present government, treating Parliament and the country with utter contempt.

How dare she try to get her bad deal thru, 1,2,3 or. 4 times, when denying the public just a second vote.

How dare she, just to keep her party in power, and together at the National expense.

Well done the speaker, you are a hero.

Re: Government Brexit Proposal & DD Resignation

Posted: 19:22 19 Mar 2019
by Pogleswoody
Mike E wrote: The speaker referring back to precedent set in the 1600s reveals just how antiquated our parliamentary system and procedures really are.

It is about time the UK embraced the modern world and gave its people a democracy and constitution that was representative of their views. We have witnessed a three year pantomime of two stale and out of date institutions fighting to save themselves at the expense of the people they are supposed to serve.

British politics needs a massive shake up with new parties, new ideas and a reformed parliamentary system that encourages co-operation.



Good precedents, good laws and good decisions do not go 'out of date'.
Erskine May was first published in 1844 and gets updated regularly.
The reason why this precedent is so little aired is because previous PM's have been more worldly, streetwise and 'quick on their feet'.
Little Miss Strawfield is way out of her depth tbh.
Bercow just got his foot rested lightly on the top of her head!! :lol: