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🚑 Steve Hooper
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We can only hope that the assessor writes an honest report on this guy's 'performance'. That was quite possibly the most incompetent display of refereeing I have ever witnessed in all my years of watching professional football.
You weren't at the Orient game he reffed then?
 
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Does anyone know if the refs are miked up to the linesman?. If so that would explain their behaviour after the 'goal' as they would have been discussing it. Linesman probably didn't realise Hardie had touched the ball. So it's a very simple explanation. No need for conspiracy theories!
So nobody seems to know.
 

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So nobody seems to know.

Both the ref and linesman acted as if the goal stood initially.
The linesman ran back towards the half way line without indicating any offside.
The ref ran over to the celebrating Argyle players to curtail them milking it.
It was only when the Cambridge players surrounded the linesman (indeed after the goalscorer had been announced) that the referee came over to the linesman. The evidence suggests that, even fitted with a mic, the linesman did not 'have a word' with the ref immediately after the ball went in and Sarginson himself had awarded the goal and was in the process of shepherding Argyle's players back to their own half.
Now this all played out directly in front of where we sit, and although inaudible, the Cambridge players were clearly patting their head to indicate that Hardie had flicked the ball on. I still think the call is tight even then.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but he has form for this (see earlier posts ref a Carlisle game in which a side was all but ready to kick off again before the protestations of the opponents led to a change of decision in a Sarginson game).
 

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Both the ref and linesman acted as if the goal stood initially.
The linesman ran back towards the half way line without indicating any offside.
The ref ran over to the celebrating Argyle players to curtail them milking it.
It was only when the Cambridge players surrounded the linesman (indeed after the goalscorer had been announced) that the referee came over to the linesman. The evidence suggests that, even fitted with a mic, the linesman did not 'have a word' with the ref immediately after the ball went in and Sarginson himself had awarded the goal and was in the process of shepherding Argyle's players back to their own half.
Now this all played out directly in front of where we sit, and although inaudible, the Cambridge players were clearly patting their head to indicate that Hardie had flicked the ball on. I still think the call is tight even then.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but he has form for this (see earlier posts ref a Carlisle game in which a side was all but ready to kick off again before the protestations of the opponents led to a change of decision in a Sarginson game).
Agree with this. If either the ref or the linesman had any doubts about the decision then they would have discussed it and disallowed it straight away.
 
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You have to be seriously blinkered or to have prejudged the ref to believe that the decision changed due to player pressure. As other posters have said, the lino clearly didn't realise it was an Argyle player that got the flick on so didn't flag. The ref confirmed it was an Argyle flick and so Jephcott was offside. It took a little longer than necessary, but the correct decision was made. The time wasting wasn't dreadful, and he added on 6 minutes. Penalty decision was correct. Not an awful performance by any means. We're all frustrated by the failure to get a winner, but it wasn't the ref's fault.
Lobster, the trouble with your post is that it's thoughtful, considered and factually correct. As a Cambridge Utd fan I've posted on the match thread and really enjoyed the bantz and very balanced views. This is obviously the thread where all the weirdo conspiracy theorists tend to hang out... :cry:o_O:rolleyes:
 

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Lobster, the trouble with your post is that it's thoughtful, considered and factually correct. As a Cambridge Utd fan I've posted on the match thread and really enjoyed the bantz and very balanced views. This is obviously the thread where all the weirdo conspiracy theorists tend to hang out... :cry:o_O:rolleyes:
So, do you not accept that the officials were influenced by the Cambridge players’ protestations to the lino?
 
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Look its history now. Let's hope that's our only game with this idiot this season and we move on.

Hopefully he retired at the end of the season and we never see the liar again.
 

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Lobster, the trouble with your post is that it's thoughtful, considered and factually correct. As a Cambridge Utd fan I've posted on the match thread and really enjoyed the bantz and very balanced views. This is obviously the thread where all the weirdo conspiracy theorists tend to hang out... :cry:o_O:rolleyes:
How do you work that out? The only thing that's factual is that the officials got into a discussion when the lino called over the ref after being approached by the Cambridge players.
 
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So, do you not accept that the officials were influenced by the Cambridge players’ protestations to the lino?
Nope....I know it's a lovely bubble of a world to live in but. sorry to say, their careers are on the line when they make decisions, not some guy(s) running up to them shouting in their ear holes. Wilson should have been sent off in the 6th minute ....I note the lack of discussion about that. As Lobster said you're annoyed because you've lost a point. That wasn't the ref's fault. Grow up FFS
 

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Nope....I know it's a lovely bubble of a world to live in but. sorry to say, their careers are on the line when they make decisions, not some guy(s) running up to them shouting in their ear holes. Wilson should have been sent off in the 6th minute ....I note the lack of discussion about that. As Lobster said you're annoyed because you've lost a point. That wasn't the ref's fault. Grow up FFS
You may be right about the early incident. There are always 2 sides to any incident like that. Perhaps, you know why Wilson did whatever you are suggesting he did. I somehow doubt that he wasn’t provoked in some way.
I hope that there is less controversy when we meet later in the season.
I am not sure why I need to grow up for asking you a simple question.
 
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Nope....I know it's a lovely bubble of a world to live in but. sorry to say, their careers are on the line when they make decisions, not some guy(s) running up to them shouting in their ear holes. Wilson should have been sent off in the 6th minute ....I note the lack of discussion about that. As Lobster said you're annoyed because you've lost a point. That wasn't the ref's fault. Grow up FFS

I would agree, except for his past history of allowing players to referee games for him and an almost carbon copy incident at Carlisle.

Have you heard the one about the player pushing the ball boy over that he claimed not to see? Then footage showed him looking directly at it. It's unclear why he was allowed to referee again after that incident, let alone referee at Home Park.

Reading up on him, a large number of match reports feature the words fracas and melee.
That's because, to some teams, including your own, he's the football equivalent of an unruly class being told they have the supply teacher. They know they can influence and harrangue him and basically derail the game.
Presumably you'd repeat that we should accept those tactics from teams with lesser budgets (FYI I'm not sure how you know the comparative budgets of our clubs but we did end the game with 5 homegrown youngsters on the park).

In summary, I do think the ref cost us two points, from the moment he was selected for the game. Because right from the moment your gaffer saw his name down and either remembered previous Cambridge games he'd been involved in, or just googled him, he'd have had known exactly what to instruct his players to do, turn the entire evening into a farce, because the guy in the purple shirt hasn't got a scooby how to control a game.

PS. If Wilson should have walked it only serves to underscore the incompetence of the officials
 
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