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green1



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: are we good enough in attack Reply with quote

what do people think about are attacking opions for this season i got a horrible feeling that were going to be to lacking in creativity i hope im wrong,we have no attacking midfielders/creating mid and are forwards havent set the pre season alite mason looking good but don't want to put to much preasure on a youngster ,i believe we have the best defence in the league just hope we score enough goals...4 weeks to get rid of a few a sign a few Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still considering a few quid on Maclean as top scorer in the Division .
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're right about the midfield - an attacking midfielder would complete the offensive jigsaw. Can't see us getting one, though!

I think our forwards (Mason and Maclean especially) could do well this season with the right service - and that's mainly on the deck with good support from the wings and midfield. Will they get it, though?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We got to hope that the wingers come good this year and with a bit of decent dead ball delivery get the backs onto a few balls in the box. I think I am right in saying that in 2 championships we never had the top scorer in the league.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we have the talent to score goals although it may take a while for the frontline to gel.

Maclean and BWP would do a job with Mason in his wing role that has worked successfully for him pre-season.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably Not but we don't even know what type of system or setup we are going to have yet.
In my book you have to be 1 of 3 things in attack ;
1. Very Fast making good runs for passes to be slot around defenders along the ground.
2. Tall strong and physical to out muscle defences and go more direct and aerial
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3. A fox in the box relying on goodb service from some proper wingers

We probably have all 3 sorts of players at league 1 level but not one excels so reid has to make his mind up on how we play.

Our goal record for many years now has been poor and even in our championship years Wotton and Coughlan were top scorers just in double figures.

The last real goalscorer we had was Tommy Tynan ! Oh how I wish we had Ricky Lambert and i think we will find out why on day 1 of the new season.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in one word NO...we are nowhere near good enough in attack to score enough goals to get out of this league....when we were last in this division the goals came from all over the place...left wingers/right wingers/midfielders/centre halves/full backs.....this current team lacks these goalscorers......plus its all very well having wingers getting the ball into the box but you need someone to consistently get on the end of these balls and hit the back of the net....and we haven't got such a player...yet........
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does not look as if we are good enough.The only addition is Rory Patterson and, based on reports from pre season games,it does not look as if he is going to be any good.That only leaves us with what we had last season and if they were any good we would not have been relegated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the type of player we are missing is j.easter fast and good finisher for this division,we should have kept him better ,than any other striker we have now
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green grandad wrote:
It does not look as if we are good enough.The only addition is Rory Patterson and, based on reports from pre season games,it does not look as if he is going to be any good.That only leaves us with what we had last season and if they were any good we would not have been relegated.


We need to give him a chance, he was banging them in in the Irish league and by all acounts he hasn't disgraced himself playing for Northern Ireland, once he gets his first competetive goal for us hopefully more will follow.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green1 wrote:
i think the type of player we are missing is j.easter fast and good finisher for this division,we should have kept him better ,than any other striker we have now


You mean 17 in 49 games? He's not a good finisher at all, just quick.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maclean, Wright-Phillips & Fallon.

All on paper good enough for the level of football we are playing at.

However Maclean & BWP only put in a performance when they want too, and well Fallon doesn't really do good performances does he now?

We will need to see a Massive improvment for all our strikers, if we our to get promoted.
Teams that get promoted from any division, need a 20+ goal a season striker.

We have 3, but which one will produce?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Mason will prove to be an absolute machine this year, and im praying Patterson comes good too.

I think we're good up top. Just inbetween the sticks and at RB i'm concerned.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GreenArmyConnor wrote:
Maclean, Wright-Phillips & Fallon.

All on paper good enough for the level of football we are playing at.

However Maclean & BWP only put in a performance when they want too, and well Fallon doesn't really do good performances does he now?

We will need to see a Massive improvment for all our strikers, if we our to get promoted.
Teams that get promoted from any division, need a 20+ goal a season striker.

We have 3, but which one will produce?


Not necessarily. It's not just the strikers that can score goals, its the midfielders that score them as well. Its about how well you work as a unit, you dont have to have a 20 goal a season striker. We never had one on either of our last 2 promotion winning seasons. I think that maclean is definitely capable of banging in goals at this level. We all saw that mason gets in the right areas to grab a few goals last season in the championship im sure he'll be able to get a few. Patterson scored 40 goals in one season for glentoran and yeah it is at a very low level but he obviously knows where the goal is and how to finish his chances. We are more than capable of scoring goals if the service is right from midfield.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pilgrims4life wrote:
GreenArmyConnor wrote:
Maclean, Wright-Phillips & Fallon.

All on paper good enough for the level of football we are playing at.

However Maclean & BWP only put in a performance when they want too, and well Fallon doesn't really do good performances does he now?

We will need to see a Massive improvment for all our strikers, if we our to get promoted.
Teams that get promoted from any division, need a 20+ goal a season striker.

We have 3, but which one will produce?


Not necessarily. It's not just the strikers that can score goals, its the midfielders that score them as well. Its about how well you work as a unit, you dont have to have a 20 goal a season striker. We never had one on either of our last 2 promotion winning seasons. I think that maclean is definitely capable of banging in goals at this level. We all saw that mason gets in the right areas to grab a few goals last season in the championship im sure he'll be able to get a few. Patterson scored 40 goals in one season for glentoran and yeah it is at a very low level but he obviously knows where the goal is and how to finish his chances. We are more than capable of scoring goals if the service is right from midfield.

Its a fair point you make, but a 20 goal a season striker would help Wink

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