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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is the spelling of the English language so inconsistent? For example, why is someone who writes humour for a living a humorist?


It's something that's always bothered me.

English teachers often use the maxim I before E except after C. Which is a weird and frustrating rule, really the height of annoyance. I do wonder if it's the same in foreign countries. I can think of about eighty very common words that contradict the rule.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the word centre...every where I go I see the word center....and metre...every where I go I see the word meter....and the word colour...every where I go I see the word color.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'll be Americanisation. Or is that Americanization?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike_gss (yet again) and Shadownight. Happy days. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Owen wrote:
That'll be Americanisation. Or is that Americanization?


It's not even that, really. Their version of English, at its root, is probably 'purer' than ours. Bill Bryson wrote a really good book about the progress of 'American' English.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth Nicholson wrote:
Andrew Owen wrote:
That'll be Americanisation. Or is that Americanization?


It's not even that, really. Their version of English, at its root, is probably 'purer' than ours. Bill Bryson wrote a really good book about the progress of 'American' English.


The 'Americanisation' of English is certainly not worth getting in a flap over. Shakespeare used many terms which would today be considered Americanisms (i.e. 'fall' instead of 'autumn'). Modern-day American English is probably closer to 17th-century British English than current British English is.

Another point worth making is that without American influence the English language would be nowhere near as universal as it is at the moment. The reason we can get away with going on holiday without bothering to learn the native tongue is more to do with American culture and influence, rather than British.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you're right, we all speak Microsoft. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The i before e rule generally only applies to words with an elongated ee sound. (Of course, weird is the exception to this rule.)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the days before modern refrigeration how did they make ice?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the days before modern refrigeration how did they make ice?


Without rechecking (always more fun) I believe it came back in huge blocks from the Arctic.

Even if incorrect, make a great picture in my mind Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Babararacucudada wrote:
In the days before modern refrigeration how did they make ice?


They couldn't make it, but the large estated used to store it in an underground icehouse.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Owen wrote:
Liffrok wrote:
Why is the spelling of the English language so inconsistent? For example, why is someone who writes humour for a living a humorist?


It's something that's always bothered me.

English teachers often use the maxim I before E except after C. Which is a weird and frustrating rule, really the height of annoyance. I do wonder if it's the same in foreign countries. I can think of about eighty very common words that contradict the rule.

Shouldn't that be wierd, foriegn and ieghty. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the lowest individual score that has never been made in a Test match? I.e. has anyone ever been out for 231, for instance?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liffrok wrote:
What is the lowest individual score that has never been made in a Test match? I.e. has anyone ever been out for 231, for instance?


You're very close actually...it's 229.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did Heskey come on for Defoe in the World Cup against Germany?
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