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Andrew Owen P@SOTI Member


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| Liffrok wrote: | | Why is the spelling of the English language so inconsistent? For example, why is someone who writes humour for a living a humorist? |
It's something that's always bothered me.
English teachers often use the maxim I before E except after C. Which is a weird and frustrating rule, really the height of annoyance. I do wonder if it's the same in foreign countries. I can think of about eighty very common words that contradict the rule. |
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oddball P@SOTI Member


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and the word centre...every where I go I see the word center....and metre...every where I go I see the word meter....and the word colour...every where I go I see the word color..... _________________ Gazza's monkey cheetah...
Met a native called Rita..
You wouldn't want to meet her..
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Andrew Owen P@SOTI Member


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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| That'll be Americanisation. Or is that Americanization? |
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tuscaloosa
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Thanks Mike_gss (yet again) and Shadownight. Happy days.  |
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Gareth Nicholson P@SOTI Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| Andrew Owen wrote: | | That'll be Americanisation. Or is that Americanization? |
It's not even that, really. Their version of English, at its root, is probably 'purer' than ours. Bill Bryson wrote a really good book about the progress of 'American' English. _________________ Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. Always certain. |
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Liffrok Trust Friend


Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3400 Location: Cornwall or northern Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Gareth Nicholson wrote: | | Andrew Owen wrote: | | That'll be Americanisation. Or is that Americanization? |
It's not even that, really. Their version of English, at its root, is probably 'purer' than ours. Bill Bryson wrote a really good book about the progress of 'American' English. |
The 'Americanisation' of English is certainly not worth getting in a flap over. Shakespeare used many terms which would today be considered Americanisms (i.e. 'fall' instead of 'autumn'). Modern-day American English is probably closer to 17th-century British English than current British English is.
Another point worth making is that without American influence the English language would be nowhere near as universal as it is at the moment. The reason we can get away with going on holiday without bothering to learn the native tongue is more to do with American culture and influence, rather than British. _________________ LGBT football fans - let's kick homophobia out of football
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Yes you're right, we all speak Microsoft.  _________________
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bringonthemilkman
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| The i before e rule generally only applies to words with an elongated ee sound. (Of course, weird is the exception to this rule.) |
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Babararacucudada Trust Friend


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In the days before modern refrigeration how did they make ice? _________________ You've gotta have a dream
If you don't have dream
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tonycholwell P@SOTI Member


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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Babararacucudada wrote: | | In the days before modern refrigeration how did they make ice? |
Without rechecking (always more fun) I believe it came back in huge blocks from the Arctic.
Even if incorrect, make a great picture in my mind  |
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Humphrey Dumpty

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| Babararacucudada wrote: | | In the days before modern refrigeration how did they make ice? |
They couldn't make it, but the large estated used to store it in an underground icehouse. _________________ AKA Pepsipete |
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GreenMatt P@SOTI Member


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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Andrew Owen wrote: | | Liffrok wrote: | | Why is the spelling of the English language so inconsistent? For example, why is someone who writes humour for a living a humorist? |
It's something that's always bothered me.
English teachers often use the maxim I before E except after C. Which is a weird and frustrating rule, really the height of annoyance. I do wonder if it's the same in foreign countries. I can think of about eighty very common words that contradict the rule. |
Shouldn't that be wierd, foriegn and ieghty.  _________________ Formerly greenmatbor3 |
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Liffrok Trust Friend


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What is the lowest individual score that has never been made in a Test match? I.e. has anyone ever been out for 231, for instance? _________________ LGBT football fans - let's kick homophobia out of football
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Andrew Owen P@SOTI Member


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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Liffrok wrote: | | What is the lowest individual score that has never been made in a Test match? I.e. has anyone ever been out for 231, for instance? |
You're very close actually...it's 229. |
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NorfolkGreen

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Why did Heskey come on for Defoe in the World Cup against Germany? _________________ I was born a green, I live a green and will die a green |
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