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Gareth Nicholson P@SOTI Member
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Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 2736 Location: Putney/Wandsworth.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: Just back |
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Is there one yet? Oooh, do I get to start it?
- woeful levels of organisation from QPR. Good turnout from the GA though
- first half very encouraging. Kept the ball well, Peterlin and Summers impressing and DJ back to his old routine of being in the right place all the time.
- Fallon won 80% of headers in the first half and 8% in the second. Still fairly effective though, although still not enough crosses into the box.
- Baz looked very good at left mid, and Molyneaux tried to overlap a few ties as well. Wouldn't mind LM as a backup left back on that showing.
- Timar looks as fit as the proverbial butcher's dog.
- MacLean played OK in the hole. Some really good touches and he is right up there as the most thoughtful player in the team.
- Second half was scrappy and QPR had more chances. Arnason looked way out of position for their goal. Mackie, who scored it, didn't do a whole lot.
- The Irish keeper (sorry, couple of ciders and have forgotten his name) looks very good. Commanding.
- Rory Patterson. Hm, I'll reserve judgement. He looked a few yards off the pace tonight though. Needs games and fitness.
- Couple of cockneys having a bit of 'banter' with pushing and shoving included in the second half. Keith Curle looked bemused.
- Moment of the match: ball runs away to the byline and QPR left back shouts 'i'm not f****** running to get that'. Schoolboy stuff. _________________ Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. Always certain. |
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CoulsdonGreen

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1665
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just back also.
Some good stuff first half. Bhasera played well, great energy. Summerfield looked good ... Peterlin looks decent enough, a good team player but very similar to our other central midfield players and lacking a bit physically.
Timar looks solid as does Arnason. Molyneux ... so so, nothing great. Zubar didn't really do anything, but I like the look of Laurent Manuel albeit he barely touched the ball. Looks skillful and pacy. Bondz N'Gala is a beast!! You can see the determination in his eyes .. I like him. MacLean and Fallon did well enough with what they had .. Patterson has the build of a rugby player! Clark and Duguid second half .. you know what that means, a rather boring 2nd half.
Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards.
Good game, team is looking strong. I would say we need a right back, a midfield player in the centre who is a bit different, and maybe a wide right and/or striker.
Hopefully we can get rid of a couple of our lumberers (Dunoguid/Clark/Paterson)
Also it's amazing how when you're so close to the pitch, you realise that there's not much skill involved in these types of games. Says it all about our national side really. |
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GreeNick
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 524 Location: South Croydon
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| CoulsdonGreen wrote: | Just back also.
Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards. |
Me and my mate sat next to him. What a bleedy plonker. Couldn't hear or understand what he was saying (as we both are deaf), but he did irk a few Argyle fans and he got chucked out. Out of interest, what was he was shouting about? _________________ • Deaf Greens' green hands signs big volumes!
• Nick Sturley blog at www.sturley.co.uk |
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CoulsdonGreen

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1665
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| GreeNick wrote: | | CoulsdonGreen wrote: | Just back also.
Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards. |
Me and my mate sat next to him. What a bleedy plonker. Couldn't hear or understand what he was saying (as we both are deaf), but he did irk a few Argyle fans and he got chucked out. Out of interest, what was he was shouting about? |
When we sang westcountry song, he would say westcountry is s... , then other stuff like 'pie in the oven, pie in the oven' 'colin is our leader' , then challenging the QPR players to 'have him' 'do him' guy was crazy. |
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BBCJohn

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 784 Location: Mile End, East London
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Gareth a good summary.
Have to take issue with this:
| CoulsdonGreen wrote: | | Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards. |
The drunk qpr fan was aiming homophobic abuse at a deaf-blind argyle fan and his describer because they were 'holding hands'. He then purposefully stood in front of the describer so he couldn't see the game. The argyle fans who eventually told to to eff off may have used bad language, but they weren't the ones in the wrong here. |
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CoulsdonGreen

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| BBCJohn wrote: | Gareth a good summary.
Have to take issue with this:
| CoulsdonGreen wrote: | | Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards. |
The drunk qpr fan was aiming homophobic abuse at a deaf-blind argyle fan and his describer because they were 'holding hands'. He then purposefully stood in front of the describer so he couldn't see the game. The argyle fans who eventually told to to eff off may have used bad language, but they weren't the ones in the wrong here. |
Well I didn't see any of that. And to be totally honest, very few would have seen that. I doubt the 2 Argyle fans who started on him saw that. The 2 Argyle fans who challenged him were idiots who seemed more interested in punching his face in than anything else. They were getting riled by his chants. |
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GoodFella

Joined: 07 May 2010 Posts: 339 Location: Plymouth
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Why didnt anyone fill him in? |
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jpfc
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Who was the QPR left back that said 'im not f*cking get that'? |
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Tinmuff

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 114 Location: Twickers SW London
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Coulsdon Green if you couldnt see what BBC John saw how can you pass judgement on the two so called Argyle fans.I was sat in front of this pillock & he was antagonising from the moment he came in untill he was confronted.The two fellows in question were talking to us throughout the game and one was a QPR fan who couldnt believe he was not asked to leave by the stewards earlier.In the end it was the QPR fan who had just about enough of this so called Rangers fan thst he decided to "have a go" fully backed by some verbals from Agyle fans around us.Hardly the villains you so quickly seem to portray them as. _________________ Chins up boys |
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Brixton 'ill Pilgrim
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Pretty entertaining game for a fiver.
QPR should probably have scored more, but apart from one effort skied over from inside the 6 yard box, it was mainly down to heroic defending/goalkeeping from Argyle that they didn't. And Fallon missed an absolute sitter for us.
If it had been a competitive fixture i) we wouldn't have made the mass substitutions that took the life out of Argyle somewhat and ii) the penalty incident might also have resulted in a red card given that Maclean was striding through on goal when he was blatantly hacked down by the last man.
So really it was a moral victory for Argyle.
The trialist at right back was all over the place, really didn't have a clue what he was doing. No surprise that he was hauled off at half time. The left back was solid, but not spectacular. The goalkeeper was more impressive and I wouldn't be surprised if we took him on on a longer term basis.
For me, Damien Johnson was our best player. Worked very hard and made a lot of timely interventions. Peterlin was also impressive, as were the starting centre backs.
Maclean did his usual trick of providing lots of stylish dummies and lay-offs around halfway up the pitch that were of virtually no consequence whatsoever. If he was playing as a holding midfielder you'd say he had a good game. To be fair he did get on the ball a lot and won us the penalty as well so this can be considered one of his better performances. Maybe he will come good this season, but I am still sceptical.
All in all though, it left me reasonably optimistic for the coming campaign. I wouldn't expect to see something too different to tonight's starting line up take the field at Southampton in a week's time and I think we'll have a decent chance if they do. COYG _________________ "We're aiming for 4th place. We won't settle for second best"- Phil Neville |
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CoulsdonGreen

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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| Tinmuff wrote: | | Coulsdon Green if you couldnt see what BBC John saw how can you pass judgement on the two so called Argyle fans.I was sat in front of this pillock & he was antagonising from the moment he came in untill he was confronted.The two fellows in question were talking to us throughout the game and one was a QPR fan who couldnt believe he was not asked to leave by the stewards earlier.In the end it was the QPR fan who had just about enough of this so called Rangers fan thst he decided to "have a go" fully backed by some verbals from Agyle fans around us.Hardly the villains you so quickly seem to portray them as. |
Ye he was a nutcase but for the large part all he was doing was chanting a load of rubbish like 'pie in the oven' whilst talking to the fans around him some rubbish. Hardly worth getting angry about for a neutral person, in a friendly game. Next thing you know these 2 guys are almost trying to drag him out the ground whilst clenching their fists. Pathetic tbh. |
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Tinmuff

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 114 Location: Twickers SW London
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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And your response to what BBC John witnessed is still 2 x pathetic men with clenched fists,would'nt want to be near when the chips were down. _________________ Chins up boys |
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CarolinaGreen

Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 275 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| BBCJohn wrote: | Gareth a good summary.
Have to take issue with this:
| CoulsdonGreen wrote: | | Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards. |
The drunk qpr fan was aiming homophobic abuse at a deaf-blind argyle fan and his describer because they were 'holding hands'. He then purposefully stood in front of the describer so he couldn't see the game. The argyle fans who eventually told to to eff off may have used bad language, but they weren't the ones in the wrong here. |
I'm trying to get my head around how a deaf and blind fan is helped to watch the match via a 'describer'. I'm guessing the 'holding hands' means the match is entirely described through the palms. Mind boggling and fantastic stuff. |
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GreeNick
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 524 Location: South Croydon
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| BBCJohn wrote: | Gareth a good summary.
Have to take issue with this:
| CoulsdonGreen wrote: | | Good laugh with the (harmless) QPR fan in the Argyle end who was clearly pissed out his head ... but some idiots also in the Argyle end ala the people who started on him, degenerate bar stewards. |
The drunk qpr fan was aiming homophobic abuse at a deaf-blind argyle fan and his describer because they were 'holding hands'. He then purposefully stood in front of the describer so he couldn't see the game. The argyle fans who eventually told to to eff off may have used bad language, but they weren't the ones in the wrong here. |
Grrr. I knew it! He did try to block my mate's view on purpose and I tried to tell him to piss off. The holding hands thing was that my mate was directing me the action on the game as I have restricted vision. But that's nothing unusual as I've had homophobic comments about it in the past by those who did not understand it.
Thankfully he was chucked out otherwise I'd have socked him if he had continued.  _________________ • Deaf Greens' green hands signs big volumes!
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Tinmuff

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 114 Location: Twickers SW London
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:43 am Post subject: |
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So sorry you were subjected to that kind of behaviour on what was 'just a friendly'.The so called Rangers fan was a prat and i'm suprised it took 75 mins or so for anyone to react.I dont Know why he wasnt shown the door by stewards earlier ormaybe like Coulsden Geen they thought hea was having harmless banter with us bumpkins,winker. _________________ Chins up boys |
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