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Apr 18, 2017
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Hello Pilgrims, just wanted to say congratulations on your promotion, long time coming and fully justified given the size of the club. I live down here (well Cornwall) nowadays but I've always had a soft spot for Argyle, not least because I've spent 2 decades traversing the length of the country following the O's pretty much every away game so I know the distances you guys cover following the greens, and in great numbers too - a credit to the lower leagues.

I was going to say how miffed I am to be losing the only 'local' away game I had left but of course we'll be in the national league next season, if we still exist at all, which seems unlikely at this moment.

I read this forum sometimes and most on here seem pragmatic about the club given where it was a few years ago, but what i will say is be VERY grateful for what you have in terms of your chairman and the stability he's brought. Our chairman has completely dismantled the club in under 3 years to the point where we don't even have any paid non-playing staff left. No one has been paid in months, the team is full of academy players (which has closed now anyway) and the fans have been going round the big London Prem clubs on matchdays with buckets, trying to collect money to stave off winding up etc. Its a sad, sorry state. In May 2014 I was at Wembley where we were one pen kick away from the Championship, now we'll be non league at best next season. As always its the fans who suffer (and the staff who are now doing it for love) while another lunatic chairman buys a football club as a plaything, runs amok, gets fed up when he cannot buy success, then loses interest and just lets it fall apart....we've watched it happen to to other clubs and now its us!!!

Orient always been in the shadow of Spurs, Arse and Wet Sham etc, and anyone who's chosen to support the O's hasn't done it for the glory. In my 30 odd yeas we've always bumped along the bottom, had the odd cup run and managed just 2 promotions from L2 in that time, hardly the stuff of dreams...and yet the club matters so much to those who follow it - as yours does to you guys. The shared collective experience (often only spoilt by the crap football) means far more to us than what the Prem offers, or of football just being a TV show as it is for many. But now it has crumbled. It took years under the last regime to get the club solvent and fighting to progress upwards and we nearly got there, but the chairman couldn't take us and further and sold us to a loony - a shocking state which sees people in tears on matchdays now. Yes its only a game, but of course its much more than that....

So, enjoy your deserved promotion and be glad you have stability. Having watched the O's stay in L1 for 10 seasons what I will say is there is a big step up, be in no doubt about that. L2 is dreadful but there's real quality in L1, its quicker, the strikers take their chances and the defences are more organised. Argyle will need the players to compete and thrive, but of course your club will hopefully do it the right way and not leave you in the sorry mess that we are currently in.

Anyway thats enough from me, good luck and enjoy your moment.

Cheers
 
Feb 23, 2009
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Great post Tiger. Wish you and all Orient fans the best and hope the awful situation can be turned around for you.
 
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Orient Tiger":1ijypow6 said:
Hello Pilgrims, just wanted to say congratulations on your promotion, long time coming and fully justified given the size of the club. I live down here (well Cornwall) nowadays but I've always had a soft spot for Argyle, not least because I've spent 2 decades traversing the length of the country following the O's pretty much every away game so I know the distances you guys cover following the greens, and in great numbers too - a credit to the lower leagues.

I was going to say how miffed I am to be losing the only 'local' away game I had left but of course we'll be in the national league next season, if we still exist at all, which seems unlikely at this moment.

I read this forum sometimes and most on here seem pragmatic about the club given where it was a few years ago, but what i will say is be VERY grateful for what you have in terms of your chairman and the stability he's brought. Our chairman has completely dismantled the club in under 3 years to the point where we don't even have any paid non-playing staff left. No one has been paid in months, the team is full of academy players (which has closed now anyway) and the fans have been going round the big London Prem clubs on matchdays with buckets, trying to collect money to stave off winding up etc. Its a sad, sorry state. In May 2014 I was at Wembley where we were one pen kick away from the Championship, now we'll be non league at best next season. As always its the fans who suffer (and the staff who are now doing it for love) while another lunatic chairman buys a football club as a plaything, runs amok, gets fed up when he cannot buy success, then loses interest and just lets it fall apart....we've watched it happen to to other clubs and now its us!!!

Orient always been in the shadow of Spurs, Arse and Wet Sham etc, and anyone who's chosen to support the O's hasn't done it for the glory. In my 30 odd yeas we've always bumped along the bottom, had the odd cup run and managed just 2 promotions from L2 in that time, hardly the stuff of dreams...and yet the club matters so much to those who follow it - as yours does to you guys. The shared collective experience (often only spoilt by the crap football) means far more to us than what the Prem offers, or of football just being a TV show as it is for many. But now it has crumbled. It took years under the last regime to get the club solvent and fighting to progress upwards and we nearly got there, but the chairman couldn't take us and further and sold us to a loony - a shocking state which sees people in tears on matchdays now. Yes its only a game, but of course its much more than that....

So, enjoy your deserved promotion and be glad you have stability. Having watched the O's stay in L1 for 10 seasons what I will say is there is a big step up, be in no doubt about that. L2 is dreadful but there's real quality in L1, its quicker, the strikers take their chances and the defences are more organised. Argyle will need the players to compete and thrive, but of course your club will hopefully do it the right way and not leave you in the sorry mess that we are currently in.

Anyway thats enough from me, good luck and enjoy your moment.

Cheers


Easy for me to say now but after the longest night the sun always rises. Your time will come again.
ps. I disagree re League 1. Yes there are some decent teams there but a lot of rubbish ones too.
 
Over the past ten years I've been a frequent visitor to Brisbane Rd, as my daughter lives nearby. Will continue to visit if you can stay solvent in the national league, and will miss you if you go broke. I've always enjoyed the crowd banter at BR. I don't know if it still exists on YouTube somewhere, but there was a wonderful moment captured on MOTD in the sixties, when you spent one glorious year in the top division. One elderly fan was so fed up with the O's inability to score that he ran on the pitch, pinched the ball, took it down to the opposing goal mouth and kicked it in to show how it should be done, to tremendous applause around the ground. He was then courteously escorted off the pitch by the police. If it happened today he would have been rugby tackled before he'd taken five paces.
 
Oct 31, 2015
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Yep best of luck to all the Os fans. We had our darkest hour and nearly disappeared from the FL altogether. The owners should be shot.

I really hope you find a way out of this mess. It took us 7 years and we managed to stay.in the league (just).
 
Feb 24, 2009
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I feel for you and your fellow supporters, an absolute horrible position to be in. A proud club like this should not be allowed to wither away, and potentially die, like this without someone being held accountable :furious:

And as for the 'Brent Out' brigade, be careful what you wish for......
 
Feb 18, 2009
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All the best to you and your team pal. Fingers crossed for the future of the O's.
You're posting on a forum where every one of us can say 'we've been there'.
Survival (on and off the pitch) might seem a billion miles away right at this moment, but you have to keep on believing. Non football fans just won't get it.
You'll probably have more dark days to come, but I sincerely hope there is a solution to your mess soon.
 

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I work with a Leyton Orient fan so take no pleasure in their impending demise. As we all know, we've been there before and it's a really sickening thought that the club we all love and give so much of our time/money/energy to may not be there. I really do fear for Orient with this nut case in charge... I think I read somewhere that he had a ladies basketball or handball team in Italy that he ran into the ground and just let get liquidated so he's got form. how he was ever considered fit and proper is beyond me..
 

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A very thought provoking post and thanks for coming on here and congratulating us.

To hear that people are in tears on matchdays shows how wretched things have become. I really hope things work out at Orient, who I've got a soft spot for after being in your end at Wembley for that play-off final in 2014. I wanted to see what the 'new' Wembley was like as I hadn't been there since '96 for our play-off win and saw first hand that day how much it hurt for you to lose after the O's had gone 2 up. But with hindsight that's nothing compared to what you're going through now. Hard to believe how things have nose-dived since then. It would be a footballing tragedy if Orient were to be no more.

Good luck.
 
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Did not the like the way your team played at home park and as a footballing team I am glad you have gone down but you the fans and club need to survive and I hope you do. Not having the famous Orient in the English leagues would be like not having an Argyle
 

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An eloquent and heartrending post Tiger and I apologise for the above inappropriate post at this time. :clap:
 

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First watched Leyton Orient in 1961/62 season when they got promoted to League division 1 (now the premier) as runners up to Liverpool.(But for a dismal final run in that could have been us,but I digress) I remember Andy Nelson signing from Leyton in 1964/65...Never any bad blood between the fans over all those years and I've been to Brisbane Road many a time,.Very very sorry to hear of your demise and wish you well..........